[foreign policy wonk]

What you're excluding is the fact that Croatia was led by those who fought Hitler, men like Bobetko and Tudjman.

There were some rightwing nationalists, yes, and some crimes were committed. But to equate them to the Ustasha doesn't make sense as the bulk of them fought the Ustasha.

Nothing in the Balkans is black and white. That's for certain.

You're also excluding Serbian Chetnik collaboration, particularly in Bosnia and Croatia.

Mihajlovic (is that the correct spelling?) was the least tainted by collaboration, as he actually fought the Germans.

The further West you went, the deeper the collaboration was.

The Chetniks under Djujic had as their leader a man who was a disciple of Ljotic, the collaborationist leader of the Zbor party.

Collaboration occurred on all sides.

The Serbs of Croatia and Bosnia fought both as collaborators and resistors.

Parallels to WW2 don't work.



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foreign policy wonk


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What you're excluding is the fact that Croatia was led by those who fought Hitler, men like Bobetko and Tudjman.

Nothing contradictory here. Tudman and Bobetko converted to Ustashluk in their old days.

The further West you went, the deeper the collaboration was.

Maybe that has something to do with the fact, that he further West you went, the more intense was the genocide perpetrated against serbs in that area.

Collaboration occurred on all sides.

Your attempt to equalize some minor serb collaboration in ares in which they were exterminated with the open and direct ideological support of Hitler by the Nazi-puppet called NDH fails miserably. Take a look at the map of Yugoslavia during the occupation and the states that were created by the third Reich and their borders. Serbia was decimated and the only state under military administration. That means, Serbia was ruled directly from Berlin. Zagreb on the other hand made the decision to exterminate it's serbian population within the borders of NDH on it's own.

[Karadjordje]

foreign policy wonk wrote:
"Your second map is not a demographic map, but rather a map outlining front lines."

If you look at the title of the New York Times article you can read "DEMOGRAPHICS" and further reading shows "The South Slavs, and Others: Where They Live"

foreign policy wonk wrote:
You're also excluding Serbian Chetnik collaboration, particularly in Bosnia and Croatia.

Mihajlovic (is that the correct spelling?) was the least tainted by collaboration, as he actually fought the Germans.

THE MIHAILOVICH STORY: A RETELLING (<- click)

MIHAILOVICH'S CLOSING SPEECH (<- click)

DRAZA MIHAILOVICH (<- click)

Do you know how many Chetnicks had been liquidated by the Tito communists?
Can you tell me why the Tito Communists hated Chetnicks?

Karadjordje