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To: foreign policy wonk; branicap; DestroyEraseImprove; DTA; getoffmylawn
Oh there were Croats who were not serfs. But they were not predominantly involved in the defense of borders. There was a small class of burgers, and Croatian nobility.

Dalmations did not show the same animosity towards their Serbian (many of whom were Roman Catholic) population. It is no wonder that Starcevic and his ilk was a political factor of a certain class of people.

The many "Illyrian" Croatians, whose movement was later transformed into a "Yugoslav" initiative, had a completely different opinion of Serbs, but they did not represent an average Croatian Joe. In fact, the Croatian intellectual and emigre elite that wanted union with Serbia was eons apart form its ethnic cousins who worshipped Starcevic, Frank and others.

But, go, if you must! Maybe where you dwell it's okay to mix apples and oranges. We have higher standards. Hasta la vista, baby!

62 posted on 02/10/2003 2:04:23 PM PST by kosta50
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To: kosta50
Starcevic's ideas belonged in the 19th century, much like Garashanin's racist ideas.

Problem is, both Croats and Serbs tried to implement them at the end of the 20th century.

As for standards, old canards and black and white views are the hallmark of those who are partisan and lack critical thinking ability.

Keep drowning in your history while the powers that be continue to partition your country.

Keep focusing on the past crimes of Croatians and such while the EU and the US dictate your state (and Croatia's for all the Croatians listening).

Khuen-Hedervary was quite good at playing Croat vs. Serb at the end of the 19th century to divide and conquer.

It seems that the same rule still applies, as typified by your bigotted remarks, and the bigoted remarks of "supercooldude" and such.

Keep focused on past injustice while those in the real power positions laugh.

"They did this!"

"Oh yeah, you did that!"

Suckers.

Islamic radicals had a meeting in Travnik this past autumn, and the two of you Christians can't put aside your ill-will.

Standards?

I've seen higher standards at a Gang war peace meeting in Cabrini Green.

Face it, wallow in this animosity, drown yourself in this history, and you won't realize that you've been played for suckers.



be seeing you,

foreign policy wonk


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63 posted on 02/10/2003 2:22:27 PM PST by foreign policy wonk (Take down the House of Saud!)
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