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Posted on 02/07/2003 5:24:37 AM PST by Jimmyclyde

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To: tpaine
As we cope with booze, we can cope with 'drugs', -- by reasonable regulations at the state level.

"According to the United States Sentencing Commission and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, more than 99 out of every 100 marijuana arrests are made under state law, rather than under federal law."

http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2002/bills/house/H-645.HTM


181 posted on 02/08/2003 4:20:01 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Kevin Curry
It would not be long until there was active warfare between the states.

Alcohol laws vary widely from State to State and even county to county.

We seem to be getting by without too much shooting.

182 posted on 02/08/2003 4:25:09 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Roscoe; Kevin Curry
Tell it to some drug warrior zealot like kevin, roscoe. -- He cares.
183 posted on 02/08/2003 4:25:25 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Roscoe
Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, 1961

The Parties,

Concerned with the health and welfare of mankind,

Recognizing that the medical use of narcotic drugs continues to be indispensable for the relief of pain and suffering and that adequate provision must be made to ensure the availability of narcotic drugs for such purposes,

Recognizing that addiction to narcotic drugs constitutes a serious evil for the individual and is

fraught with social and economic danger to mankind,

Conscious of their duty to prevent and combat this evil, Considering that effective measures against abuse of narcotic drugs require coordinated and universal action,

Understanding that such universal action calls for international co-operation guided by the same principles and aimed at common objectives,

Acknowledging the competence of the United Nations in the field of narcotics control and desirous that the international organs concerned should be within the framework of that Organization,

Thanks for letting everyone know about your love for the United Nations. I expected no less from you.

184 posted on 02/08/2003 4:27:35 PM PST by ActionNewsBill
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To: ActionNewsBill
The United States has entered into agreements to work against the international flow of your beloved drugs.

Unlike the Gun-Free School Zones Act, the statutory scheme at issue here neither “plows thoroughly new ground” nor “represents a sharp break with the long-standing pattern” of federal regulation. See Lopez, 115 S. Ct. at 1632 (quoting Lopez, 2 F.3d at 1366). Rather, § 860 addresses a clearly commercial activity that has long been within federal power to regulate. In contrast to the firearm possession at issue in Lopez, drug trafficking is an “economic enterprise” that substantially affects interstate commerce in numerous clear ways. Each individual instance of cocaine dealing, for example, represents the end point of a manufacturing, shipping, and distribution network that is interstate–and international–in nature. In fact, Congress included specific findings to that effect when it passed the Controlled Substances Act. Controlled Substances Act, Pub L. No. 91-513 (84 Stat. 1236), tit. II, § 101, 1970 U.S.C.C.A.N. 1444, 1444-45 (codified at 21 U.S.C. § 801); see also Controlled Substances Penalties Amendments Act of 1984, Pub. L. No. 98-473, ch. V, sec. 503(a), § 405A, 1984 U.S.C.C.A.N. (98 Stat.) 2068, 2069

United States v. Tucker, SIXTH CIRCUIT

185 posted on 02/08/2003 4:32:06 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: tpaine
Facts are your enemy.
186 posted on 02/08/2003 4:33:31 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
I'd like to see some facts from you, instead of all the begging bull.
187 posted on 02/08/2003 4:37:43 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
I'd like to see some facts from you

Here ya go, question beggar:

Appellant John Wacker argues that the section of the Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 under which he was convicted, 21 U.S.C. 841(a)(1) (the "Drug Act"), impermissibly regulates intrastate activities which do not substantially affect interstate commerce, in violation of the Tenth Amendment. Although he does not cite United States v. Lopez, 115 S. Ct. 1624 (1995), we assume that he asks us, in light of that recent decision, to reconsider our holding in United States v. King, 485 F.2d 353, 356 (10th Cir. 1973), that 21 U.S.C. 841(a)(1) is constitutional.

This argument was recently rejected by the Fourth Circuit, see United States v. Leshuk, 65 F.3d 1105, 1111-12 (4th Cir. 1995), and we agree that it is without merit.

United States v. Wacker, TENTH CIRCUIT

Unlike the Gun-Free School Zones Act, the statutory scheme at issue here neither “plows thoroughly new ground” nor “represents a sharp break with the long-standing pattern” of federal regulation. See Lopez, 115 S. Ct. at 1632 (quoting Lopez, 2 F.3d at 1366). Rather, § 860 addresses a clearly commercial activity that has long been within federal power to regulate. In contrast to the firearm possession at issue in Lopez, drug trafficking is an “economic enterprise” that substantially affects interstate commerce in numerous clear ways. Each individual instance of cocaine dealing, for example, represents the end point of a manufacturing, shipping, and distribution network that is interstate–and international–in nature. In fact, Congress included specific findings to that effect when it passed the Controlled Substances Act. Controlled Substances Act, Pub L. No. 91-513 (84 Stat. 1236), tit. II, § 101, 1970 U.S.C.C.A.N. 1444, 1444-45 (codified at 21 U.S.C. § 801); see also Controlled Substances Penalties Amendments Act of 1984, Pub. L. No. 98-473, ch. V, sec. 503(a), § 405A, 1984 U.S.C.C.A.N. (98 Stat.) 2068, 2069

United States v. Tucker, SIXTH CIRCUIT

Moreover, contrary to Leshuk's alternative contention, the Drug Act is not unconstitutional as applied if his possession and cultivation were for personal use and did not substantially affect interstate commerce. Although a conviction under the Drug Act does not require the government to show that the specific conduct at issue substantially affected interstate commerce, see Scales, 464 F.2d at 373, Lopez expressly reaffirmed the principle that "where a general regulatory statute bears a substantial relation to commerce, the de minimis character of individual instances arising under that statute is of no consequence." Lopez, 115 S. Ct. at 1629 (quoting Maryland v. Wirtz, 392 U.S. 183, 197 n.27 (1968)); see also United States v. Stillo, 57 F.3d 553, 558 n.2 (7th Cir. 1995); Scales, 464 F.2d at 374- 76. We thus reject Leshuk's Commerce Clause challenge to the constitutionality of the Drug Act.

United States v. Leshuk, FOURTH CIRCUIT

It is therefore not surprising that every court that has considered the question, both before and after the Supreme Court's decision in Lopez, has concluded that section 841(a)(1) represents a valid exercise of the commerce power. See, e.g., United States v. Edwards, ___ F.3d ___, ___, 1996 WL 621913, at *5 (D.C. Cir. Oct. 29, 1996); United States v. Kim, 94 F.3d 1247, 1249-50 (9th Cir. 1996); United States v. Bell, 90 F.3d 318, 321 (8th Cir. 1996); United States v. Lerebours, 87 F.3d 582, 584-85 (1st Cir. 1996); United States v. Wacker, 72 F.3d 1453, 1475 (10th Cir. 1995), cert. denied, 117 S. Ct. 136 (1996); United States v. Leshuk, 65 F.3d 1105, 1111-12 (4th Cir. 1995); United States v. Scales, 464 F.2d 371, 375 (6th Cir. 1972); Lopez, 459 F.2d at 953.

Proyect v. United States, SECOND CIRCUIT

Many courts, including this court, have held that drug trafficking is precisely the kind of economic enterprise that substantially affects interstate commerce and that, therefore, comes within Congress's regulatory power under the Commerce Clause. See, e.g., United States v. Lerebours, 87 F.3d 582, 584-85 (1st Cir. 1996); United States v. Staples, 85 F.3d 461, 463, amended, ___ F.3d ___ (9th Cir. 1996) [1996 WL 359984]; United States v. Genao, 79 F.3d 1333, 1336-37 (2d Cir. 1996); United States v. Wacker, 72 F.3d 1453, 1475 (10th Cir. 1995), petition for cert. filed, No. 95-9284 (U.S. June 10, 1996); United States v. Brown, 72 F.3d 96, 97 (8th Cir. 1995) (per curiam), cert. denied, 116 S. Ct. 2581 (1996); United States v. Leshuk, 65 F.3d 1105, 1112 (4th Cir. 1995). Indeed, Congress made particularized findings to this effect when it enacted the full panoply of criminal laws anent controlled substances. See 21 U.S.C. § 801.

Given both this background and the truism "that courts, when passing upon the constitutionality of a statutory provision, must view it in the context of the whole statutory scheme," Vote Choice, Inc. v. DiStefano, 4 F.3d 26, 33 (1st Cir. 1993), it is not surprising to find that every court which has confronted the appellants' argument in the post-Lopez era has upheld section 860(a) against a Commerce Clause challenge. See, e.g., United States v. Tucker, ___ F.3d ___, ___ (6th Cir. 1996) [1996 WL 413411, at *1-4]; United States v. Rogers, ___ F.3d ___, ___ (7th Cir. 1996) [1996 WL 399850, at *11-12]; United States v. Clark, 67 F.3d 1154, 1165-66 (5th Cir. 1995), cert. denied, 116 S. Ct. 1432 (1996); United States v. Garcia-Salazar, 891 F. Supp. 568, 569-72 (D. Kan. 1995); see also United States v. McDougherty, 920 F.2d 569, 572 (9th Cir. 1990) (scuttling pre-Lopez Commerce Clause challenge to earlier version of § 860(a)), cert. denied, 499 U.S. 911 (1991). Because we do not doubt that Congress has the authority under the Commerce Clause to regulate an activity as clearly commercial in character as drug trafficking, and because the particular statute that the appellants challenge is nothing more than a sentence-enhancer applicable to certain proscribed drug trafficking activities, we hold that 21 U.S.C. § 860(a) does not trespass into constitutionally forbidden terrain.

United States v Zorrila, FIRST CIRCUIT

188 posted on 02/08/2003 4:43:19 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
The United States has entered into agreements to work against the international flow of your beloved drugs.

I don't have a problem with fed.gov keeping drugs out of the country. I believe they have the authority to control the borders. Of course, anybody at this point in time can walk across anywhere in the Southwest.

However, they (fed.gov) should not be involved with marijuana grown within the borders of the United States.

Of course, the gov't ships in the majority of the truly addictive drugs, (cocaine, heroin) or at least allows a sizable amount into the country.

I guess you've never heard of Mena, Arkinsas.

189 posted on 02/08/2003 4:45:06 PM PST by ActionNewsBill
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To: Roscoe
If only those pesky facts would go away.

The pesky facts are that federal bureaucracies run education, health care, education, environmental policies, etc., and spend huge amounts of our tax dollars to do so.

And they all depend on a liberal view of the General Welfare and Commerce clauses.

190 posted on 02/08/2003 5:38:09 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H
The pesky facts are that federal bureaucracies run

"According to the United States Sentencing Commission and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, more than 99 out of every 100 marijuana arrests are made under state law, rather than under federal law."

http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2002/bills/house/H-645.HTM


191 posted on 02/08/2003 5:47:28 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
A bunch of 'cites', inane to the issue at hand, are just useless pap. - Roscoepap.
192 posted on 02/08/2003 6:25:40 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
A bunch of 'cites'

You haven't made a "bunch of cites." A false Poe attribution? A fake Lincoln quote?

193 posted on 02/08/2003 6:40:23 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Babble on.
No one has a clue what you rant about, roscoe, -- most of the time.
194 posted on 02/08/2003 6:49:03 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
You didn't have a clue that your Poe and Lincoln cites were fakes?
195 posted on 02/08/2003 6:52:27 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: general_re
Very nice!
196 posted on 02/08/2003 6:56:10 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: general_re
BTW, I see that you've cast Roscoe in the role of "Jackboots."
197 posted on 02/08/2003 6:57:53 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Roscoe
Babble on.
Do you have a clue what you're ranting about, roscoe?
198 posted on 02/08/2003 7:07:55 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Don't pretend. They're even on your homepage.
199 posted on 02/08/2003 7:15:03 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Post your proofs of 'fakes', if you gottum, hotshot.


200 posted on 02/08/2003 7:20:21 PM PST by tpaine
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