In reply 240, you stated that you knew "that GLSEN used to receive a consultant fee for managing the DOE's Safe Schools program". The DOE's Safe Schools is a state-wide program with state-wide funding available for the creation of GSA's, as documented on the Massachusetts Department of Education's own web site ( see reply 115 ).
"A "Task Force" oversees the project. GLSEN is not even mentioned until the last paragraph, signifying their MINOR role:"
"In addition to the Massachusetts DOE, the program is supported by the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), the Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth and other agencies, and is overseen by a task force composed of BPS teachers, guidance counselors, administrators and private partners."
And YOU accuse ME of grasping at straws?! What a bunch of tripe! This describes a local "city-wide" plan. Madg, this is one of the weakest arguements I've ever seen you make.
"Supported" by GLSEN... not "managed," SUPPORTED.
Support - To aid the cause by approving, favoring, or advocating
Advocate - To speak in favor of; Recommend
The word "support" doesn't describe the level of opereational management that GLSEN may have had in the State of Massachusetts' Safe Schools program. The excerpt of the article you posted simply acknowledges that GLSEN was "speaking in favor of" the city's program.
"You will excuse my onetime misuse of the word "manage.""
No, because I believe you actually know much more than you're admitting. You are the one who claims to attend GLSEN conferences and who helps pays the registration fee of kids going to the conference. In reply 110 you stated:
"This "fistgate" hubbub was very local to me and involved several figures with whom I was familiar..."
And in reply 274, you posted:
"That means many new GSA's were created at taxpayer expense."
”Yeah… ain’t it COOL?!”
Just how deep do your ties go?
"It is perfectly clear that GLSEN was nothing more than a consultant to the program.
No, it's not. You've attempted to cloud the issue even more by posting about a local "City-wide" Safe Schools Initiative and implying that, since a notation about GLSEN doesn't appear until the last paragraph, and mentions GLSEN's "support" for this City-wide program, that this somehow proves that GLSEN hasn't managed the "STATE-WIDE" Safe Schools program. What you posted is nothing more than a statement of GLSEN's approval of a local "CITY-WIDE" program.
BTW, thanks for posting this. It provides additional documentation of taxpayer funds and adult intervention (the Mayor and Superintendent, in this case) being used in the "formation or strengthening of GSA's" - ALL at taxpayer expense, of course.
"Of course, what is also perfectly clear is your utter inability to accept facts, instead choosing to seize upon a single word that you could twist to your propaganda-perpetuating agenda, rather than engaging in an intelligent discourse. Your unending propaganda and your repeated insistence on bringing up arguments that have been effectively dismissed have eliminated any possibility of a mature and logical discussion."
Now we're getting somewhere. That's spoken like a true homosexual activist - right out of:
The Overhauling of Straight America
"At a later stage of the media campaign for gay rights -- long after other gay ads have become commonplace -- it will be time to get tough with remaining opponents. To be blunt, they must be vilified. (This will be all the more necessary because, by that time, the entrenched enemy will have quadrupled its output of vitriol and disinformation.) ..."
"Your unending propaganda..."
You mean the documentation that you choose not to deal with by simply "snipping" it out of the reply? Like the documentation that revealed that discussions with similar (and even worse) obscene and harmful content than what we heard on the the Fistgate workshop tape are being introduced in the public school curriculum by teachers who bring in homosexual "guest speakers" to their classes?
"... your utter inability to accept facts... and your repeated insistence on bringing up arguments that have been effectively dismissed..."
Why -- because YOU say the arguments have been dismissed? As long as I accept YOUR "facts," then there's no problem, right? The arguments may have been effectively dismissed in you mind, but that's no surprise.
"Camenker is dangling in the wind and I am loving every second of it."
Well of course you are! So is GLAD ("putting the right-wing on notice that they cannot use intimidation tactics to try to stop vitally important sex education information from getting to young people"). It's what we've come to expect from the homosexual community. You folks really take PRIDE in trying to silence anyone who makes an effort to protect children from perversion such as the Fistgate workshop.