Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'

CNSNEWS.com ^ | 2/06/03 | Lawrence Morahan

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"I've read the transcript of the presentation which can only be described as pornographic."...

You can listen to the audio clips from the workshop:

From For The Children, Inc:

Listen to Mass. Depts of Education and Health instruct children on the mechanics of homosexuality.

"On March 25, 2000 the Massachusetts Departments of Education and Health teamed up with the national gay and lesbian group GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network) and conducted a conference for school children and educators. The conference was held under the guise of tolerance and safe schools. However, as the Parent's Rights Coalition discovered, this conference was about teaching children the unsafe mechanics of homosexuality. Following the conference, organizers denied claims of misconduct made by the Parent's Rights Coalition. Organizers were forced to concede the truth after the Parent's Rights Coalition made public an audio recording from the conference, which substantiated their claims..."

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"I can't imagine a medical doctor in their right mind that would recommend this activity."

Nor any other medical personnel:

Why Isn't Homosexuality Considered A Disorder On The Basis Of Its Medical Consequences?

"The co-author of my own medical reference book, Saunders Pocket Reference for Nurses,[i] was the head of the surgery department at Stanford. She related case histories of homosexuals needing emergency surgery due to "fisting," "playing with toys," (inserting objects into the rectum) and other bizarre acts..."

"How can we be teaching this activity to kids?"

Here's one way: GLSEN Encourages Teens In Anal SEX "Don't give up."

And when the kids get to college, they'll have ample opportunity to continue the homosexual education they received in middle school and high school with special workshops, such as: Students Learn Sex Toy Safety (No Joking)

[EdReform]

Click on the links in reply #23 below.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Legal defense costs since homosexual advocacy groups first deposed Camenker and Whiteman in the summer of 2000 have reached well over $100,000, Camenker said.

This is why the average person can’t speak out against the homosexual agenda. Their tyrannical methodology is buy the party line or be ruined.

It's down right scarry.

[codder too]

I know Brian Camenker and can say that a donation to the Parents Rights Coalition would be money well spent. He and Scott have been under fire for "years".

Several years ago he(Brian)was labeled a "Right wing Christian radical" which he said was sure to come as a surprise to his Jewish parents. Brian is one of those rare men who stays in the battle armed only with the facts, because he cares about our children. He and his group deserve and NEED our support.

[upchuck]

If you already have a copy of this tape, listen to it again. If you don't have a copy of the free tape, go here and order it or listen to it online.

Then, send a few bucks to PRC.

I been down a bunch of roads. But this is truly the most disgusting thing I've ever come across.

[JoJo Gunn]

Oh, I certainly believe it! If it weren't for the RINO ostritches, we wouldn't be in this mess today. But that's how history is, replete with the few of us willing to see the Darkness in order to FIGHT it. The Left always drags the world into war, always. Our ancestors knew this. Sinister means left.

By the way, I find it interesting that a search on GLSEN's site for "fistgate" yields zero results. Reckon why?

[Remedy]

"If they are able to be able to beat us in Massachusetts, they can continue to hound any parent who gets in their way," said Camenker, president of the Parents Rights Coalition.

"It has a certain national significance as to what the gays can do to parents who expose the stuff," he added.

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Because of the nature of the crime, the penalties for the act of sodomy were often severe. For example, Thomas Jefferson indicated that in his home state of Virginia, "dismemberment" of the offensive organ was the penalty for sodomy. ⁷ In fact, Jefferson himself authored a bill penalizing sodomy by castration. ⁸ The laws of the other states showed similar or even more severe penalties:

That the detestable and abominable vice of buggery [sodomy] . . . shall be from henceforth adjudged felony . . . and that every person being thereof convicted by verdict, confession, or outlawry [unlawful flight to avoid prosecution], shall be hanged by the neck until he or she shall be dead. ⁹ NEW YORK

That if any man shall lie with mankind as he lieth with womankind, both of them have committed abomination; they both shall be put to death. ¹⁰ CONNECTICUT

Sodomy . . . shall be punished by imprisonment at hard labour in the penitentiary during the natural life or lives of the person or persons convicted of th[is] detestable crime. ¹¹ GEORGIA

That if any man shall commit the crime against nature with a man or male child . . . every such offender, being duly convicted thereof in the Supreme Judicial Court, shall be punished by solitary imprisonment for such term not exceeding one year and by confinement afterwards to hard labor for such term not exceeding ten years. ¹² MAINE

That if any person or persons shall commit sodomy . . . he or they so offending or committing any of the said crimes within this province, their counsellors, aiders, comforters, and abettors, being convicted thereof as above said, shall suffer as felons. ¹³ [And] shall forfeit to the Commonwealth all and singular the lands and tenements, goods and chattels, whereof he or she was seized or possessed at the time . . . at the discretion of the court passing the sentence, not exceeding ten years, in the public gaol or house of correction of the county or city in which the offence shall have been committed and be kept at such labor. ¹⁴ PENNSYLVANIA

[T]he detestable and abominable vice of buggery [sodomy] . . . be from henceforth adjudged felony . . . and that the offenders being hereof convicted by verdict, confession, or outlawry [unlawful flight to avoid prosecution], shall suffer such pains of death and losses and penalties of their goods. ¹⁵ SOUTH CAROLINA

That if any man lieth with mankind as he lieth with a woman, they both shall suffer death. ¹⁶ VERMONT

8. Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew A. Lipscomb, editor (Washington, D. C.: Thomas Jefferson M emorial Association, 1904), Vol. I, pp. 226-227, from Jefferson's "For Proportioning Crimes and Punishments."
9. Laws of the State of New-York . . . Since the Revolution (New York: Thomas Greenleaf, 1798), Vol. I, p. 336.
10. The Public Statute Laws of the State of Connecticut (Hartford: Hudson and Goodwin, 1808), Book I, p. 295.
11. A Digest of the Laws of the State of Georgia (Milledgeville: Grantland & Orme, 1822), p. 350.
12. Laws of the State of Maine (Hallowell: Goodale, Glazier & Co., 1822), p. 58.
13. Laws of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia: John Bioren, 1810), Vol. I, p. 113.
14. Collinson Read, An Abridgment of the Laws of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, 1801), p. 279.
15. Alphabetical Digest of the Public Statute Laws of South-Carolina (Charleston: John Hoff, 1814), Vol. I, p. 99.
16. Statutes of the State of Vermont (Bennington, 1791), p. 74.

BURGER, C.J., Concurring Opinion

As the Court notes, ante at 192 , the proscriptions against sodomy have very "ancient roots." Decisions of individuals relating to homosexual conduct have been subject to state intervention throughout the history of Western civilization. Condemnation of those practices is firmly rooted in Judeo-Christian moral and ethical standards. Homosexual sodomy was a capital crime under Roman law. See Code Theod. 9.7.6; Code Just. 9.9.31. See also D. Bailey, Homosexuality [p*197] and the Western Christian Tradition 70-81 (1975). During the English Reformation, when powers of the ecclesiastical courts were transferred to the King's Courts, the first English statute criminalizing sodomy was passed. 25 Hen. VIII, ch. 6. Blackstone described "the infamous crime against nature" as an offense of "deeper malignity" than rape, a heinous act "the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature," and "a crime not fit to be named." 4 W. Blackstone, Commentaries *215. The common law of England, including its prohibition of sodomy, became the received law of Georgia and the other Colonies. In 1816, the Georgia Legislature passed the statute at issue here, and that statute has been continuously in force in one form or another since that time. To hold that the act of homosexual sodomy is somehow protected as a fundamental right would be to cast aside millennia of moral teaching.

This is essentially not a question of personal "preferences," but rather of the legislative authority of the State. I find nothing in the Constitution depriving a State of the power to enact the statute challenged here.

[Prodigal Daughter]

I am praying hard for these people. Unfortunately, I can relate to their story on a personal level. (Time to flee Sodom and don't look back). Tell them to stay close to G-d and He will comfort, also pray and fast, and read the Word, especially the Psalms. Also, tell them don't believe it when someone from social services calls and says that they have to interview their children. That's just one of their many tactics.

[JoJo Gunn]

From what I understand of Cellucci and Bush, I don't think we can depend on the Republican party for moral support. Seems every day there's reason to lose respect for Bush and the GOP. And it becomes more clear each day that Calhoun's study applies to humans as well as rats.

[Remedy]

Unfortunately, I can relate to their story on a personal level.

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PETITIONS AGAINST GAY RIGHTS SEIZED (Signature drive by 250 Christian groups sabotaged by gays?)

[Prodigal Daughter]

Then there were four arrests, including a 17 year old who got signatures when he was 15, and a 76 year old admittedly senile old man who had notarized his own signature and admitted his advancing senility to FDLE prior to the arrest, turning in his notary seal...and on and on.....

[ErnBatavia]

"But we're normal!"

[Protagoras]

"Loser pays" would help.

[Protagoras]

Thanks a lot, at least this pic was posted well before lunch.

[TexanToTheCore]

And just what are they being sued for? For recording a public meeting?

[ladylib]

That lady who complained about the book her son was assigned for summer reading contacted the district attorney who told her that schools, libraries, and museums are exempt from state pornography laws.