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NASA probes 'electric zap' mystery photo:Former astronaut wowed by photo
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| February 5, 2003
| Joe Kovacs
Posted on 02/05/2003 6:50:15 PM PST by gitmo
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To: Vermont Lt
I have not been able to ascertain the type of camera, but if it is digital... "I couldn't see the discharge with my own eyes, but it showed up clear and bright on the film when I developed it," the photographer previously said.
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:15:55 PM PST
by
Nick Danger
(Heave la France)
To: Finny
bookmark 16
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:19:23 PM PST
by
Finny
(God Bless G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, good timing, success, and victory.)
To: Nick Danger
Digital film?
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:19:37 PM PST
by
gitmo
("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
Comment #24 Removed by Moderator
To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Additional information
http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/essd23sep98%5F1.htm
These weird flashes were first observed
from the ground, when, quite by accident,
they were captured on video on July 5, 1989
by University of Minnesota scientists John
Winckler, Robert Franz and Robert Nemzek.
The scientists were actually performing a
calibration test for a low light level
monochrome camera, and weren't
particularly looking at the thunderstorm to
the east of their observing site at all. The
next morning, while viewing the test video,
they saw giant twin pillars of light extending
upward more than 30 kilometers above the
thunderstorm.
The flashes were first recorded from space
by the Space Shuttle (STS-34), as it passed
over a highly active thunderstorm in
northern Australia on Oct. 21, 1989. The
shuttle's monochrome TV cameras filmed
what are now called sprites and jets. The
observations were being conducted as part
of the NASA/Marshall Mesoscale Lightning
Observation Experiment. Otha H. Vaughan, Jr.,
of NASA's Global Hydrology Center was the
principal investigator.
In 1994, while flying an extremely sensitive
color camera normally used for auroral
photography in a high altitude aircraft,
University of Alaska scientists confirmed that
the flashes have a generally reddish color
which often fades to purple or blue in the
downward extending tendrils. Dr. Davis
Sentman of UAF named these "sprites" after
the creatures in Shakespeare's "The
Tempest," in part because of their transient,
ephemeral nature. The UAF team also
discovered and named blue jets.
The sprites appear high above the
thunderstorm while the jets shoot out from
the top of the thunderstorm. Sprites appear
to cascade as high as 96 km (60 mi) above
the Earth. Sprites can look like giant red
blobs, picket fences, upward branching
carrots, or tentacled octopi, and can occur
singly or in clusters. The jets appear to be
ejected from the storm top with velocities as
high as 100 km per sec and move up as high
as 32 kilometers.
Stratospheric lightning events could
generate strong electric fields and
electromagnetic pulses which may interact
with the Earth's ionosphere and
magnetosphere. Strong fields at high
altitudes may generate runaway electrons
which could then produce high energy
x-rays and even gamma rays. Thus, it is
possible that lightning may generate a
broad spectrum of electromagnetic
radiation, ranging from extremely low
energy to extremely high-energy gamma
radiation. This theory is supported by the
Burst and Transient Source Experiment
(BATSE) aboard the Compton Gamma Ray
Observatory which has detected gamma
rays coming up from the Earth - not deep
space - when the spacecraft was over
thunderstorms.
Researchers want to know what effect
upward lightning may have on future
commercial aviation operations and high
altitude balloon research flights in the
stratosphere.
To: Vermont Lt
Assuming these are the same photos that we have been hearing about for days, I think one of the earlier articles said that it was a Nikon 8. Is that a digital camera?
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:23:22 PM PST
by
CMailBag
To: ez
Even if the Chinese have laser weapons I doubt very much that they could hit a target traveling at 13000 mph with it. At least not for a couple decades(I would think).
To: gitmo
This guy reportedly takes pics with his Nikon anytime the shuttle flight is within viewing distance of his location in the SF area. My question . . . What do his other photos of other flights show? Anything like the yet unseen photos reported here? Is this an anomoly for this particular flight with disastorous result, or is it an anomoly that might from time to time show up in his previous photographs, indicating perhaps that the anomoly has an origin in his camera, or in his technique for photoing the shuttle?
To: deport
Heh, I had hoped my tagline would help ease ping related issues.
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:27:58 PM PST
by
Bogey78O
(It's not a Zero it's an "O")
To: snickeroon
Are the anamolies said to be photographed in the mideast (an unidentified and mysterious arc of red light) seen when the crew was photographing lightening strikes Red Sprites and Blue Jets>>> http://elf.gi.alaska.edu/
Or do a Google search on "Red Sprites and Blue Jets
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:29:37 PM PST
by
HP8753
To: AlFuller781
No. Next question.
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:30:03 PM PST
by
Bogey78O
(It's not a Zero it's an "O")
To: HP8753
Additional information on sprites. Follow link for additional photos.
http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/essd23sep98%5F1.htm
These weird flashes were first observed
from the ground, when, quite by accident,
they were captured on video on July 5, 1989
by University of Minnesota scientists John
Winckler, Robert Franz and Robert Nemzek.
The scientists were actually performing a
calibration test for a low light level
monochrome camera, and weren't
particularly looking at the thunderstorm to
the east of their observing site at all. The
next morning, while viewing the test video,
they saw giant twin pillars of light extending
upward more than 30 kilometers above the
thunderstorm.
The flashes were first recorded from space
by the Space Shuttle (STS-34), as it passed
over a highly active thunderstorm in
northern Australia on Oct. 21, 1989. The
shuttle's monochrome TV cameras filmed
what are now called sprites and jets. The
observations were being conducted as part
of the NASA/Marshall Mesoscale Lightning
Observation Experiment. Otha H. Vaughan, Jr.,
of NASA's Global Hydrology Center was the
principal investigator.
In 1994, while flying an extremely sensitive
color camera normally used for auroral
photography in a high altitude aircraft,
University of Alaska scientists confirmed that
the flashes have a generally reddish color
which often fades to purple or blue in the
downward extending tendrils. Dr. Davis
Sentman of UAF named these "sprites" after
the creatures in Shakespeare's "The
Tempest," in part because of their transient,
ephemeral nature. The UAF team also
discovered and named blue jets.
The sprites appear high above the
thunderstorm while the jets shoot out from
the top of the thunderstorm. Sprites appear
to cascade as high as 96 km (60 mi) above
the Earth. Sprites can look like giant red
blobs, picket fences, upward branching
carrots, or tentacled octopi, and can occur
singly or in clusters. The jets appear to be
ejected from the storm top with velocities as
high as 100 km per sec and move up as high
as 32 kilometers.
Stratospheric lightning events could
generate strong electric fields and
electromagnetic pulses which may interact
with the Earth's ionosphere and
magnetosphere. Strong fields at high
altitudes may generate runaway electrons
which could then produce high energy
x-rays and even gamma rays. Thus, it is
possible that lightning may generate a
broad spectrum of electromagnetic
radiation, ranging from extremely low
energy to extremely high-energy gamma
radiation. This theory is supported by the
Burst and Transient Source Experiment
(BATSE) aboard the Compton Gamma Ray
Observatory which has detected gamma
rays coming up from the Earth - not deep
space - when the spacecraft was over
thunderstorms.
Researchers want to know what effect
upward lightning may have on future
commercial aviation operations and high
altitude balloon research flights in the
stratosphere.
To: AlFuller781
Doesn't this add credence to the Arab / Muslim notion that the shuttle was divinely destroyed, as a rebuke to the United States?If evildoers are smitten, I'd sure hate to live in the Middle East.
To: ez
I certainly am not alleging anything-But I just learned this week from reading "Reagan's War" that the Russians were able to laser hit the Challenger back in the early 80's. -Caused discomfort to the crew and screwed up some instruments-
Kind of throws cold water on the theory that NOTHING from the ground could hit it.
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:34:04 PM PST
by
RugerM77
To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Oops! double post, same info. Sorry.
To: Nick Danger
Well, there you have it. There really isn't digital film, at least we dont call it that...
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:38:05 PM PST
by
Vermont Lt
(Mileage may vary. Do your own tests....)
Comment #37 Removed by Moderator
To: gitmo
See the bottom left paragraph on
this page from Kodak.
February 1st. Cold. Excited photographer. Shuttle re-entry. Quick rewind.
Motorized cameras automatically rewind their exposed film. In dry, cold weather, this may cause static streaking, which looks like horizontal lightning, on your film. When you're finished shooting, remove the camera batteries and bring it all indoors. Once the camera and film reach room temperaturein about an hourreplace the batteries and rewind the film. With manual cameras, rewind the film very slowly.
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:39:32 PM PST
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
To: gitmo; Admin Moderator
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:41:12 PM PST
by
petuniasevan
(We know less about our own planet than we think...)
To: FreedomCalls
Here is an example of static discharge on film taken at night.
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:44:34 PM PST
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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