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Not bad.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 02/05/2003 4:15:14 PM PST by MadIvan
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Bump!
2 posted on 02/05/2003 4:15:30 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
*Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, is positively frightening.*

I love it!! heh
3 posted on 02/05/2003 4:20:28 PM PST by prairiebreeze ("We won't deny, ignore or pass our problems along to other Presidents" --GWBush)
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To: MadIvan
Bump.
4 posted on 02/05/2003 4:21:40 PM PST by Rocko
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To: MadIvan
Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, is positively frightening.

He frightens the right people; those who deserve to be frightened.

5 posted on 02/05/2003 4:23:56 PM PST by Rocko
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To: MadIvan
"Not bad. "

You've understated it a bit; should have been "Very Good".

Thanks Ivan, I look forwrd to your posts, I have yet to disagree with them or should I put it, your point in posting them.

Regards, UB
10 posted on 02/05/2003 4:31:07 PM PST by uncbuck (Send lawyers, guns and money.)
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To: MadIvan
Let us not be too judgmental!! If the Yankee hawks were being paid by the Iraqis and their agents as much money as the Eurinal doves are, they might change their tune. This is the same thing as Dashole and his bag lady wife; you pay her a basket full of money and he'll do whatever you want. They are Eurinals. They take bribes, payoffs, and kickbacks. It is their way of life.
12 posted on 02/05/2003 4:35:10 PM PST by Tacis
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Mr Powell, therefore, is the man to drop them a rope to help them up the steep learning curve that he has himself climbed.

What is more likely to happen to that rope; it being used to pull the UN up the steep learning curve and out of obselescence, or the UN wrapping it around its neck and leaping to the bottom of that learning curve?

13 posted on 02/05/2003 4:35:51 PM PST by steveegg (I'll take the latter if anyone's covering, which I highly doubt)
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To: MadIvan
Good post.

I wish the Telegraph would start up an American edition (The National Post as well).

14 posted on 02/05/2003 4:43:52 PM PST by BfloGuy (The past is like a different country, they do things different there.)
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To: MadIvan
"..the hawks reject the idea implicit in the views of the chancelleries of Europe that the only people who can effectively run the place are evil bastards. They think that the four million Iraqi exiles and most of the people still living in the place would like the chance of a civil society and, with help, could start building one."

The true blind spot is the the Euro-weenies apparently have forgotten that it was an older generation of American hawks which made the existing "civil society" in Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea possible in the first place. Things COULD have gone very differently after World War II and the Korean war.

16 posted on 02/05/2003 4:49:40 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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Does being born on European soil automatically confer a sophistication that rude Americans cannot possibly attain to?

One would think so, listening to the derisive, dismissive, pronouncments emanating from the inner chambers of Paris, Brussels and Berlin.
17 posted on 02/05/2003 5:07:27 PM PST by ricpic
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To: MadIvan
Mr Powell, therefore, is the man to drop them a rope to help them up the steep learning curve that he has himself climbed.

Ivan,
Thanks again for all the work you do to keep those of us on the other side of the pond informed about the goings on in Britain and amongst the lunitic lefties of the continent.

I do not wish to belabor this point but a steep learning curve is GOOD. I used to maintain the DoD instruction on the use of the learning curve. A steep learning curve means that you are learning faster. A shallow learning curve means that you are learning more slowly.

Obviously, this writer has never learned the difference.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

18 posted on 02/05/2003 5:13:49 PM PST by LonePalm (The Son of a Son of a Sailor.)
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"Most European politicians...think that...George W. Bush is ignorant and...Donald Rumsfeld...is positively frightening."

If so, they are fools.

21 posted on 02/05/2003 5:20:57 PM PST by Savage Beast
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To: MadIvan
Not bad at all!

Bump! :-)
22 posted on 02/05/2003 5:22:22 PM PST by Happygal
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To: MadIvan
bttt
23 posted on 02/05/2003 5:25:43 PM PST by ellery
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To: MadIvan
Your posts always strike a chord for me. Thanks for your vigilance
24 posted on 02/05/2003 5:31:29 PM PST by blackbag
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To: MadIvan
As in Palestine, so in Iraq, the hawks reject the idea implicit in the views of the chancelleries of Europe that the only people who can effectively run the place are evil bastards. They think that the four million Iraqi exiles and most of the people still living in the place would like the chance of a civil society and, with help, could start building one.

I think that the 'hawks' in this case are being pragmatic in the long term...they believe in America as a bastion of freedom and in freedom itself as a laudable goal for a people...even Tony Blair believes in the integrity of the individual and thinks that the Iraqi people deserve to live better lives...our countries are on the right side of history (again)...I only hope that the aftermath in Iraq runs more smoothly than Afghanistan and that we open the prisons and deluge the Arab world with the truth of Saddam's evil regime.

35 posted on 02/05/2003 8:17:28 PM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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36 posted on 02/16/2003 10:53:27 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
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I think I will bookmark this one!
37 posted on 02/16/2003 10:54:18 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
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