Why Washington's hawks see further than Europe's doves

The Daily Telegraph ^ | February 6, 2003 | Charles Moore

[MadIvan]

Not bad.

Regards, Ivan

[MadIvan]

Bump!

[prairiebreeze]

*Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, is positively frightening.*

I love it!! heh

[Rocko]

Bump.

[Rocko]

Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, is positively frightening.

He frightens the right people; those who deserve to be frightened.

[Miss Marple]

This is a good article, and it gives me confidence that mamny of the people in the Pentagon and elsewhere in the administration have been looking far into the future.

It is so much better than the reactionary foreign policy we had for eight years.

Thanks for the article, Ivan.

[Capitalist Eric]

Nice catch!

The last line says it all... (((sigh)))

FReegards,

[MadIvan]

He frightens the right people; those who deserve to be frightened.

I hope he scares the likes of Saddam, Al Qaeda, Fidel, Kim Jong-Il, to death. They need to be awoken by night terrors, fearing the sound of bombers overhead at any moment.

Regards, Ivan

[Hawkeye's Girl]

Rumsfeld is like that stuffed animal you had as a little kid to protect you from monsters: very friendly to you, yet utterly deadly to them.

[uncbuck]

"Not bad. "

You've understated it a bit; should have been "Very Good".

Thanks Ivan, I look forwrd to your posts, I have yet to disagree with them or should I put it, your point in posting them.

Regards, UB

[xJones]

Every time I go to Washington - I returned from there this week - I find a seriousness and depth of thought about terror, the Middle East and the nature of power that, whether one agrees with it or not, is not matched by an alternative vision this side of the Atlantic.

It is amazing that Europe doesn't say anything about Libya chairing the UN Committee on Human Rights, or that Iraq will be heading the UN Committee on Disarmament starting in March. The French suck up to Mugabe, who is starving to death over half his country's population, but the UN doesn't say anything about that either. It's the Good Ship Lollipop and we're all supposed to sing along.

[Tacis]

Let us not be too judgmental!! If the Yankee hawks were being paid by the Iraqis and their agents as much money as the Eurinal doves are, they might change their tune. This is the same thing as Dashole and his bag lady wife; you pay her a basket full of money and he'll do whatever you want. They are Eurinals. They take bribes, payoffs, and kickbacks. It is their way of life.

[steveegg]

Mr Powell, therefore, is the man to drop them a rope to help them up the steep learning curve that he has himself climbed.

What is more likely to happen to that rope; it being used to pull the UN up the steep learning curve and out of obselescence, or the UN wrapping it around its neck and leaping to the bottom of that learning curve?

[BfloGuy]

Good post.

I wish the Telegraph would start up an American edition (The National Post as well).

[NovemberCharlie]

What is more likely to happen to that rope; it being used to pull the UN up the steep learning curve and out of obselescence, or the UN wrapping it around its neck and leaping to the bottom of that learning curve?

At this point, I would welcome either option.

[Wonder Warthog]

"..the hawks reject the idea implicit in the views of the chancelleries of Europe that the only people who can effectively run the place are evil bastards. They think that the four million Iraqi exiles and most of the people still living in the place would like the chance of a civil society and, with help, could start building one."

The true blind spot is the the Euro-weenies apparently have forgotten that it was an older generation of American hawks which made the existing "civil society" in Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea possible in the first place. Things COULD have gone very differently after World War II and the Korean war.

[ricpic]

Does being born on European soil automatically confer a sophistication that rude Americans cannot possibly attain to?

One would think so, listening to the derisive, dismissive, pronouncments emanating from the inner chambers of Paris, Brussels and Berlin.

[LonePalm]

Mr Powell, therefore, is the man to drop them a rope to help them up the steep learning curve that he has himself climbed.

Ivan,
Thanks again for all the work you do to keep those of us on the other side of the pond informed about the goings on in Britain and amongst the lunitic lefties of the continent.

I do not wish to belabor this point but a steep learning curve is GOOD. I used to maintain the DoD instruction on the use of the learning curve. A steep learning curve means that you are learning faster. A shallow learning curve means that you are learning more slowly.

Obviously, this writer has never learned the difference.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

[onehipdad]

Is there a Hamid Karzai or even a Bebe Netanyahu handy to get the ball rolling?

[tet68]

. It's the Good Ship Lollipop and we're all supposed to sing along.

By all means......"Ship of Fools...on a cruel sea......"