[Red Jones]

Which side are you on, Mr. Red?

I'm opposed to the NWO. I think we should do things the old fashioned way. Sovereign governments should be able to restrict or tax trade if they desire. And I don't think the IMF and World Bank have a decent track record. And I think there's a lot of evidence that recent trade patterns are bidding wages down for large portions of populations in many countries.

You can't support traditional ideas of democracy and the New World Order at the same time. It's just that simple. I'm on George Washington's side, not George Bush'.

[John Valentine]

There is NO SUCH THING as the "New World Order" except in the fevered imaginations of the Left and the paranoid fantasies of the poorly educated.

Sovereign governments do as always restrict, tax, and regulate trade. This continues to be a major source of problems, and is the real culprit responsible for many of the percieved shortcomings of "free trade". "Free Trade" has never existed except insde a uniform politic like the United States, and even here, there are continuing attemps by localities to control, and regulate trade in spite of the Constitutional prohibition. Meddlers will never stop meddling.

The IMF and the World Bank are meddlers too, along with governments and socialistic supranational organizations. They invariably do harm, since the impede the efficinet functioning of markets.

Foreign trade may on occasion depress local wages, but wages should neve fall faster than costs, and they would not in the absence of meddling.

I do not support democracy, at least not in the sense you seem to. I support individual freedom, persoal liberty, and property rights. These three form the basis of every prosperous society. Democrasy consists of Jim and Tom voting Ralph to pay for lunch. This will not increase the wealth of Jim, Tom or Ralph.

You need to get beyond slogans and epithets like "New World Order" which really have no menaing or existence and start really thinking about what creates wealth. Meddling doea not create wealth, be sure of that much at least.