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TWO TEXANS CHARGED WITH STEALING SHUTTLE DEBRIS
AP Breaking News ^ | 5 February 2003 | Joseph Verrengia

Posted on 02/05/2003 2:02:05 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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To: lawgirl
I cannot believe there are people that see this behavior as acceptable.

Anarchy has a siren song even some on the right fall prey to.
241 posted on 02/05/2003 8:21:10 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Texasforever
Isn't stealing shuttle debris "obstruction of justice"?

No, but it might be "obstruction of reconstruction", and they're still mighty touchy about Reconstruction in them parts, I hear.

242 posted on 02/05/2003 8:21:52 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: an amused spectator
Good point - my mistake. I'll work up a coherent recap for you in the AM. We can discuss it then, if you like.

I was just replying off the "My Comments" screen. I'll read through the thread later. My daughter had the computer all night for a school project so I am quickly getting my delayed FR fix before going to bed.
243 posted on 02/05/2003 8:23:04 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: an amused spectator
No, but it might be "obstruction of reconstruction", and they're still mighty touchy about Reconstruction in them parts, I hear.

I am begging you...stop trying to be cute you really suck at it. The FBI is part of the shuttle investigation and nothing has been ruled out. That makes each piece of debris a part of a potential criminal investigation.

244 posted on 02/05/2003 8:25:24 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The severity of the punishment is probably a little extreme, but I believe it's intended to make the point that taking this specific property is endangering others' lives. Glad you can understand that!
245 posted on 02/05/2003 8:25:55 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: wcbtinman
I'm sure that the heavy handed tactic by the govt is going to endear folks to further co-operate with them.

And, the heavy-handed posts by some who are obviously law enforcement will ensure further cooperation. I only posted that it is unfortunate that the law is not prosecuted evenly...I believe that's what I meant...and now I'm reportedly supporting and defending thieves. Incredible.

246 posted on 02/05/2003 8:27:51 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: CyberAnt
The severity of the punishment is probably a little extreme,

The punishment has been a part of the law all along and was not made up from whole cloth this week.

247 posted on 02/05/2003 8:28:58 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: dalebert
Or punish illegals running our borders. Or people who make fake documents for illegals.

I guess that's what I was thinking initially. Wasn't I?

248 posted on 02/05/2003 8:30:02 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: Texasforever
You're begging me to take over-zealous prosecution and wasting time and money on a "reconstruction investigation" [of an accident scene where they found debris in New York] seriously?

Get a grip.

249 posted on 02/05/2003 8:30:47 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: CyberAnt
it's intended to make the point that taking this specific property is endangering others' lives.

Typical post-modern hype and Barbra Streisand, pal. Fall for that and you fall for the '40 million children living in poverty', for the '30 million homeless', for the '10% of population is gay' and similar horsepucky!

250 posted on 02/05/2003 8:31:04 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Someone left the cake out in the rain I dont think that I can take it coz it took so long to bake it)
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To: Texasforever
I know that - it's just that I think the law was made severe to underscore the seriousness of the situation.
251 posted on 02/05/2003 8:32:49 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: Revolting cat!
You can believe whatever you want.

I don't believe any of those things you mentioned.
252 posted on 02/05/2003 8:34:01 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: an amused spectator
You're begging me to take over-zealous prosecution and wasting time and money on a "reconstruction investigation" [of an accident scene where they found debris in New York] seriously?

Hell it is obvious you take nothing seriously except yourself. The fact remains that what these idiots did broke an existing law with a maximum punishment that may or may not be levied. If you are so worried about it start a defense fund for them.

253 posted on 02/05/2003 8:36:17 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Revolting cat!
The men and women who go up there know that their lives are endangered from the get-go.

Their resumes are awesome.

We'd like to get them as much information as we can, but time, money and other things sometimes intervene.

I detest this emoting over uncontrollable circumstance.

254 posted on 02/05/2003 8:36:23 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: Texasforever
The fact remains that what these idiots did broke an existing law with a maximum punishment that may or may not be levied.

The law is in their mouths.

255 posted on 02/05/2003 8:37:40 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I only posted that it is unfortunate that the law is not prosecuted evenly...I believe that's what I meant...and now I'm reportedly supporting and defending thieves. Incredible.

Face it - you, Revolting cat! and I are just bad people.

256 posted on 02/05/2003 8:38:57 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: an amused spectator
The law is in their mouths.

That one stumped me. Please explain.

257 posted on 02/05/2003 8:39:23 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Damagro
Why should anyone recquire a reward for doing what is right?

To encourage people to LOOK for it. Might as well ask why did sheriffs offer rewards for the heads of desperados in the olden days, when it was everyone's civic duty to turn them in for free?

258 posted on 02/05/2003 8:39:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: an amused spectator
Well stated (# 254.) The risks are high (2%, some FReeper very reasonably calculated,) and they know it, even if the public doesn't and the bureaucrats and even the NASA engineers won't admit it. Also, shiite happens, I maintain. The more I read about it the more I realize how rinky dink, seat of the pants this entire operation is (No rescue options whatever? One day's supply of oxygen when they are to land?) We may never know what happened, and the grave seriousness of the post-disaster process, including this prosecution is just beyond words, and in my opinion, entirely futile. Don't believe the hype, it ain't gonna save nobody's life now!

I always say (though not exactly this way,) shiite happens!
259 posted on 02/05/2003 8:49:11 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Someone left the cake out in the rain I dont think that I can take it coz it took so long to bake it)
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To: djf
I thing what they did was stupid, shortsighted, selfish. Bad judgement. But I don't think it was criminal. There's probably guys who've done drive by shootings who didn't get ten years in the slammer.

I'm not sure that time is warranted. But if there weren't a threat of prosecution, I think you'd have a lot of entrepeneurs taking pieces of the shuttle and putting them on Ebay. And, really, I think the real value in gathering evidence isn't to protect the government but, rather, to get to the bottom of what happened -- and prevent it in the future.
260 posted on 02/05/2003 9:25:05 PM PST by Bush2000
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