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TWO TEXANS CHARGED WITH STEALING SHUTTLE DEBRIS
AP Breaking News ^ | 5 February 2003 | Joseph Verrengia

Posted on 02/05/2003 2:02:05 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

LUFKIN, Texas (AP) - Two Texans were indicted Wednesday on federal charges they stole pieces of space shuttle Columbia that had dropped onto the countryside. Federal officials in Texas also declared an amnesty period extending until 5 p.m. Friday, during which people who have collected shuttle debris can turn it in without fear of being prosecuted. After that, prosecutions will resume, they said. Merrie Hipp, 43, of Henderson, was charged with theft of government property for allegedly stealing a shuttle circuit board on Saturday.

Bradley Justin Gaudet, 23, of Nacogdoches, was charged in a separate incident with stealing a piece of thermal insulating fabric. Gaudet is a student at Steven F. Austin State University. "The issue here is the thermodynamics of the space shuttle and any piece of that is important to this investigation," said U.S. Attorney Michael Shelby. "No one knows which piece will unravel the mystery." The charges carry a maximum of 10 years in prison and a fine of $250,000. Both defendants awaited arraignment Wednesday afternoon.

Authorities said they are conducting at least 17 investigations into reports of people taking shuttle debris as souvenirs. They would not give specifics or comment on whether those cases were related to attempts by people to sell purported shuttle debris on eBay. "These two individuals are first," Orwig said. "There is no particular threshold. They are an example, whether it's our intention or not. Authorities urged members of the public to take advantage of the amnesty period. "If you turn the piece over and describe where you found the piece, we will not prosecute you," Orwig said.


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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
If it's not crystal clear from a cursory investigation that the person knew what the tile was and still kept it, the FBI should just take the tile and do nothing more. If the person takes the tile to their local police he should get a reward for it (maybe something like $50 per pound of verifiable shuttle pieces, doing it based on weight to prevent people from breaking up pieces to get more).
101 posted on 02/05/2003 4:10:20 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
Oh... and even a better reward if they are the first person to tell police where it is, while it still lies on the ground or wherever it fell.
102 posted on 02/05/2003 4:15:24 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Other than ghouls who would want to cash in by selling the debris, I can't see why anyone would want a piece of Columbia. I sure wouldn't.

Osama's scalp is another matter. I'd love to hang that on my wall.

103 posted on 02/05/2003 4:23:58 PM PST by LibKill (ColdWarrior. I stood the watch.)
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To: Revolting cat!
Apples and Oranges pal.

Anybody collecting debris from this national disaster reminds me of the dkheads that were trying to sell photos of people falling from the World Trade Center.

Get your priorities right!

104 posted on 02/05/2003 4:25:35 PM PST by oldtimer
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To: shadowman99
THIS WAS SOMEBODY'S TOMB YOU SACRILEGIOUS JACKASS!!!!!!

Authorities said they are conducting at least 17 investigations into reports of people taking shuttle debris as souvenirs. The author's words not mine. The article does not state that they were trying to profit from it. It was bad judgement and morally wrong, but to go after people to that extent is excessive. You don't think ten years in prison is excessive? In the meantime there are people in this country that mean us real harm and you would prefer that the Feds focus their energies on locking up anyone that happens upon a piece of debris and doesn't turn it in? I think that you and the government need to get their priorities straight.

I am not excusing what these people did, my problem is with the way that the government is handling this.

105 posted on 02/05/2003 4:31:02 PM PST by L_Von_Mises
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To: CyberAnt
" EVERY PIECE HOLDS THE POTENTIAL OF TELLING THE ENGINEERS WHY THE SHUTTLE BROKE UP. "

No, they don't. They choose to make flippant remarks about toilet paper, and feed paranoid visions of Nasa prosecuting anyone who finds parts of the shuttle after Friday.

They are trolls. I am done with this discussion because they cannot be made to understand.

106 posted on 02/05/2003 4:34:15 PM PST by shadowman99
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To: Catspaw
I've been eying up a nice little house in Washington DC in a prime location with good parking.

Well, being a Freeper, you've automatically got a good jump with some 97,000 registered voters (less troll quotient) on your side.

107 posted on 02/05/2003 4:35:36 PM PST by ErnBatavia ((Bumperootus!))
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To: steve-b
Fair enough, given that some pinhead selling a critical piece of evidence on eBay could end up causing the death of another shuttle crew.

There is no particular threshold. They are an example, whether it's our intention or not.

From what the article says, these were not the people trying to sell debris on e-bay. I am not excusing what these two people did, but I think there are better ways to go about this than telling people that if they find any debris and don't turn it in they will serve ten years in prison. In the meantime there are a lot of people in this country that should be higher priority targets for the Justice Department, specifically potential terrorists.

108 posted on 02/05/2003 4:40:27 PM PST by L_Von_Mises
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To: shadowman99
They understand ... they just love to try to irritate people into exploding ... so they can watch.

I refuse to play their game.
109 posted on 02/05/2003 4:40:33 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: stanz
LOL. Just joking, Bro. I'm no JohnHuang2, but I have my moments.
110 posted on 02/05/2003 4:48:47 PM PST by ffusco (sempre ragione)
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To: Republic
Merrie Hipp, the woman accused of stealing the circuit board must be the same reported here on a FR thread Saturday. Poster said she got out of car and picked it up with a plastic bag. When they asked her what she was doing, she said "none of your business". They took a photo of her license plate and called the police.
111 posted on 02/05/2003 4:53:56 PM PST by not-an-ostrich
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To: CyberAnt
By the way, if someone you loved had been onboard that shuttle when it broke into a thousand pieces, I wonder how you would feel if some guy TOOK the one piece which would explain why your loved one had to die.

Your "argument" drips with emotion. Try arguing the facts.

The country has too many "laws" already. We don't need more, especially 10 year sentences for "possession of a shuttle lockwasher".

112 posted on 02/05/2003 5:14:59 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"Lookie here Edna, I've been doing this job for 25 years getting 3% raises and framed certificates on the wall for prosecuting small time crack dealers. But now, I prosecute a guy for picking up a pice of trash and boom, I get my name in the papers! Next thing you know, we'll be packing the house and moving to Dee-See. Make sure you take a message when John Ashcroft calls! Burglary? Who cares, there just one victim at a time, who'll do nothing if we don't catch the perp or catch him and let him go! But somebody picking up space shuttle debris? There is a whole country of fools who think they are victims! Go figure!"
113 posted on 02/05/2003 5:16:39 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Someone left the cake out in the rain I dont think that I can take it coz it took so long to bake it)
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
I'm asking this in all earnestness, as I realize what a slippery slope this can be

The law doesn't make gradations. Most of the posters on this thread are in favor of handing the persecutors a white paper.

114 posted on 02/05/2003 5:16:47 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I'm sure as hell glad that I don't have your attitude.
115 posted on 02/05/2003 5:27:27 PM PST by jackbill
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To: an amused spectator
Like I said ... your ignorance only increases each time you open your mouth.

What does having tooooo many laws have to do with anything ..???
116 posted on 02/05/2003 5:33:45 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: CyberAnt
What does having tooooo many laws have to do with anything ..???

What the heck are you doing on the Free Republic, newbie?

This is a forum given to discussions of a Constitutional Republic, not emoting over detritus from a shuttle accident.

117 posted on 02/05/2003 5:39:41 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: an amused spectator
Who are YOU to determine if I'm qualified to be on FR or NOT ...??

Take a hike yourself!!
118 posted on 02/05/2003 5:42:32 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: Revolting cat!
Get a load of CyberAnt's post #116! What does a ten year sentence for picking up shuttle debris have to do with too many laws! LOL!

May his chains rest lightly.

119 posted on 02/05/2003 5:50:34 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: CyberAnt
Who are YOU to determine if I'm qualified to be on FR or NOT ...??

Not only are you lousy at argumentation, you're lousy at analytic reading. If you examine my quote, you'll see that I'm asking you what you're hanging around a Constitutional forum for. Strict interpretation of the Constitution argues for less laws, not more laws.

Free men don't need a bunch of laws to throttle their freedoms - our forefathers saw that clearly.

120 posted on 02/05/2003 5:54:48 PM PST by an amused spectator
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