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... If you think research spending is such a bad thing, please go live in a place that doesn't enjoy the benefits of it.

Are you really this naive as to be oblivious to the fact that you're offering a false dichotomy? The choices aren't government research or no research. Research is not done solely with plundered dollars. In fact the most effective research is done under private auspices using those resources after the government finishes its looting. Antibiotics - to use your example are NOT funded by the government. IN fact the government acts as a giant barrier to antibiotic research via its timing on the patent laws.

DO you really think that there would be no internet without the government's plunder, squander to buy votes, and then whine for more cycle.

You and the other big government cheer leaders don't realize that there is nothing magic about the government spending money. Those same dollars would have been spent far more effectively by the creators of the wealth rather than the looters.

Antibiotics were indeed, originally developed for the military, get your facts straight.

I know for a fact there would BE NO INTERNET TODAY if it werent for government spending... Arpanet became the internet.... and guess what, when it finally was made open to the public by a bill signed by Bush Senior, not a single commercial equivalent existed! Some private point to point, and modem BBSand FIDONET.... Private industry was nowhere near its own Internet as it existed in the early 90s, and the private networks that did exist, were built completely upon the concepts and research that built the government programs.

No one is doubting that money kept by persons would be spent, certainly it would... money is a vehicle flowing is what it does. My argument is not that the money would not be spent, our disagreement is how it would have been spent. Your supposition is basically the following "Public works are always bad, and the same or better result will come without them" that's really the argument you are making, and its completely false.

I suggest you go look up what exactly a SOCIETY is... there are certain things societies do collectively for the betterment of all.. its not big government, or socialist, its reality! If there were no tangible benefit to such things, societies would never form.

Its a good thing tax money has built an infrastructure such that nearly every person in this nation can get safe clean drinking water in their homes, and that sewage systems remove the waste from nearly all of them... Its a good thing that the government helps private people buy their own homes and have private property through the FHA and Mortgage deductions, we are a better off as a society because of it.... Its a good thing government funded INTEL, etc etc etc... Your failure to recognize there are things that can only be accomplished by society as a whole shows that you are making purely ideological arguments, not ones based in fact or reason.

As for being big government, I voted for Alan Keyes for crying out loud... I am so sick of the foolishness, that if you can see what a society is, you must be a liberal big government lover.