To: choosetheright
Even if he's on our side, dishonesty in his work is unacceptable. The deceptive posting was plain dishonest. It's one thing to use an anonymous alias to post here or to post on other discussion boards, but quite another thing to create false reviews or post self-promoting lies. The case for guns is strong enough that we don't need to embrace liars.
2 posted on
02/04/2003 7:40:27 AM PST by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo Mesopotamia Esse Delendam)
To: choosetheright
Nice try, Timmy.But, YOU LOSE..again.
Why not show us just ONE city, town, etc. that has strict gun control where the crime rate is LOWER than those that DO NOT have strict gun control?Why does Chicago, Washington DC and LA have the highest murder rates in the country, and also the strictest gun control, hmmm?
3 posted on
02/04/2003 7:42:16 AM PST by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it.)
To: choosetheright
More horsesh!t trying to discredit Lott.
This was discussed previously, and at worst, one could conclude from Lott's data that in certain States and areas, CCW's had little or no effect upon the crime rate.
To insinuiate that he completely concocted data and is akin topeople such as Bellisiles is dishonest at best.
4 posted on
02/04/2003 7:45:49 AM PST by
FreeTally
(How did a fool and his money get together in the first place?)
To: choosetheright
By the way, notice that they go after the BOOK, but not the SEMINAL STUDY published by U. of Chicago that is the basis for the study, and which had EVERY SOURCE out there for years.
And having scanned Kleck's book, I could have sworn that in fact he said there, or in his ARTICLES (which these cheap-shot artists don't mention) that he had the 98% figure mentioned.
11 posted on
02/04/2003 8:04:58 AM PST by
LS
To: choosetheright
One thing I've leaned about anti-gunners over the years is that they lie --- deliberately and repeatedly. Their "facts" are often wrong or incomplete and they are masters at the splashy propaganda statement. I would characterize this piece as fitting nicely into the mold and won't believe a word of it without independent corroboration.
One thing is clear: the gun grabbers believe the Besiliedes fiasco hurt them badly...and they will do ANYTHING to try to regain the intiative.
To: choosetheright
Picking at some peeling paint on Lott's "house" is nothing like the discovery that Bellesiles' "house" was built on quicksand without a foundation.
To: choosetheright
"But polls by the Los Angeles Times, Gallup, and Peter Hart show no such thing."
The Los Angeles Times!?! Of course their poll would contradict Lott's statement! That's a given! Why was the Los Angeles Times even mentioned? The LA Times is nothing more than a propaganda sheet for the left.
To: choosetheright
Instapundit has been following this story for months. He and others with extensive knowledge of the details of the story comment on Noah's story
here.
43 posted on
02/04/2003 7:05:05 PM PST by
beckett
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