Time To Threaten Arabs With Mass Eviction

Jewish Press ^ | 1/29/2003 | JACKIE MASON and RAOUL FELDER

[SJackson]

How did they do that?

At the tip of Jordanian bayonets, excepting the 5,000 or so they planted.

[Brian Allen]

<< During the Yom Kippur war of 1973 .... >>

I remember.

I was there.

[Non-Sequitur]

And how many of those 3 million do you think the Israeli's will have to kill? How many Israelis will be killed in return?

[Non-Sequitur]

So the Israelis should start shooting until the survivors move out? Don't you think that the Palestinians will fight back? What have they got to lose?

[Abar]

"Time To Threaten Arabs With Mass Eviction"

[John Lenin]

Home run !

[tictoc]

Off thread (sorry), but I've always wondered why there are so few Native Americans today in the USA.

In Latin America, they are everywhere; I believe Bolivia is more than 50% indigenous population ("Indios").

And we know how cruel the Spaniards where.

So what explains the low numbers of Native Americans in the U.S.?

[RaceBannon]

My guess is intermarriage, many did with former slaves.

I have a PRO Indian book, written in th early 1800's, that says that the Indians HATED the slaves, their black skin scared them to death, and during the Indians raids, while they sold the white people (Early 1670's wars and later the 1730 wars) as slaves, the Black Slaves were killed on sight almost immediately.

Maybe also, most American Indians stay to themselves? That, or we think they are hispanic and dont realize the American Indian blood in them.

I think the Indian culture is interesting, but I cannot stand people who try to tell us they acted inhuman: always peacful, never polluting, never fighting, never warring. Humans do all those things; every human culture did.

[Unassuaged]

That is painting the Americian Indians with a broad brush, there were/are many tribes and the actions of one tribe are just that, it is not fair to say that it was all one sided or all Indians are the same (though many paid the price for the actions of others).
I will gladly read up on this issue to become better informed of our history.

[Alouette]

But will the Palestinans go when you tell them to leave? How will you make them?

If you were living in a squalid s###hole of a refugee camp and somebody offered you a chance for a normal live, pay for your family to relocate, give you a good job and a nice house, let's say in DEARBORN MICHIGAN, would you take it, or would you stay in the s###hole in the hopes that someday you will loot that house in Tel Aviv that your grandpappy had his eyes on back in '48.

Paying the Arabs CASH to relocate was actually the plan of that GREAT SATAN, Meir Kahane. The cost was actually much less than you might think. Maybe not everyone would agree to accept money to relocate, but reasonable, rational human beings who want better lives for themselves and their families might consider it as an alternative to living in a s###hole refugee camp.

The Saudi's could pay for this out of their pocket change. But they evicted 500,000 Palestinians from their kingdom so obviously they figured out the logistics and did not inspire any outrage from you.

[Non-Sequitur]

So let me see if I understand this correctly. Your solution is to have one party, Saudi Arabia, to foot the bill for moving the Palestinians to the land of another party, the United States. And in the end the Israelis will have the occupied territories all to themselves, all without spending a dime or having to put up with those pesky natives. And you call this a workable solution?

[Alouette]

Your solution is to have one party, Saudi Arabia, to foot the bill for moving the Palestinians to the land of another party, the United States.

My solution is to channel all the funds (provided by the Saudi's and others) currently paying for terrorist activity against Israel and the Jews to peaceful relocating of the residents of the refugee camps in any one of their choice 22 Muslim Arab countries.

And in the end the Israelis will have the occupied territories all to themselves, all without spending a dime or having to put up with those pesky natives. And you call this a workable solution?

Works for me.

[Non-Sequitur]

Works for me.

Of course it works for you, in your scheme you get the occupied territories free and clear, no fuss no muss, and without spending a dime. And of course the Saudis, the Americans, and the Palestinians are supposed to fall all over themselves in their rush to do this for you.

[SJackson]

If citizenship was offered in nations like Jordan, Kuwait (formerly 300,000 palestinians lived there, till deported), Saudi Arabia, or others in the Arab world, perhaps an expanded Jordan encompassing a portion of Iraq, and if funds for resettlement were redirected from the support of terrorism by the Arab world and the UN, I think you’d see a substantial number of the refugees take advantage of it, just as you’ve seen many Jews from Russia, Ethiopia and around the world take advantage of similar opportunities.

There’s nothing sinister about that, and it would provide them with a better life.

It sould be pointed out that Israel allows Arabs within it’s borders, unlike the Arab world, and that the stumbling block in a plan like this are the arabs themselves, who want the refugees mired in poverty.

[SJackson]

So the Israelis should start shooting until the survivors move out? Don't you think that the Palestinians will fight back? What have they got to lose?

BTW, I never said that. It's impolite to make things up.

[Non-Sequitur]

So your idea is for the Palestinians to pack up all their belongings, and for someone else to take them in all and for third parties to pay for the expense of moving them, all so Israel can have the occupied territories to herself free and clear? And this is what you consider a workable solution?

[SJackson]

So your idea is for the Palestinians to pack up all their belongings, and for someone else to take them in all and for third parties to pay for the expense of moving them, all so Israel can have the occupied territories to herself free and clear? And this is what you consider a workable solution?

I think offering the refugees citizenship in Arab countries would be a very viable solution. Two thirds of them already reside in Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria you know, in camps. I think they’d be far better off resettled, and lots of them would opt to given the opportunity. If some of the 15% or so of the refugees who live in the West Bank wanted to leave, fine, if they wanted to stay, and were peaceful, they’d simply be citizens of Syria, Jordan or Lebanon working in Israel. Big deal, that’s been going on for years. The stumbling block, of course, are the Arabs who keep them in bondage in hopes of sending 4 or 5 million residents of Arab nations into Israel.

The costs would be manageable, particularly if you’re only concerned (as you seem to be) with the West Bank refugees, which number about half the number of Jews Israel has resettled from Russia in the last decade.

[Non-Sequitur]

I think offering the refugees citizenship in Arab countries would be a very viable solution.

If the people in the occupied territories wanted that citizenship and the countries in question were willing to give them citizenship. But you leave out Israeli citizenship so you are depending on others to provide services at their expense so Israel can keep the West Bank and Gaza. Why should they do that?

The costs would be manageable, particularly if you’re only concerned (as you seem to be) with the West Bank refugees, which number about half the number of Jews Israel has resettled from Russia in the last decade.

Of course the costs are manageable since you expect someone else to foot the bill. Again, you want others to provide the homes and the money and Israel gets the prize. You really think that the Arab world or the Palestinians are going to do that? Out of their well-demonstrated sense altrueism?

But you also overlook the title of this post. The authors aren't talking about paying for resettlement or compensation or even worrying about a home for the Palestinians. They are saying it's time to threaten them. Well, threats only carry weight if you have the means of carrying them out. So how do you see Israel doing it?

[RaceBannon]

That's correct, many did NOT attack us.

The Mohegans were our allies in the Pequot wars, so were the Nehantics.

But, in Connecticut, we gave the first casino to the Pequots instead of the Mohegans, because the Pequots were almost wiped out during that battle.

[Alouette]

The authors aren't talking about paying for resettlement or compensation or even worrying about a home for the Palestinians.

Here is what they said. It bears repeating:

Israelis are constantly asked the same obnoxious question: “How can you throw the Arabs out — where would they go?” The answer is, if they don’t care whom they kill, why are we obligated to care where they go?

If a gang of killers lived across the street, would you allow them to keep throwing bombs through your window until you found them another apartment?