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To: WhiskeyPapa
"Quote Lincoln on the idea that blacks were "inferior" to whites."

This is the whole of it, and anything that argues me into his idea of perfect social and political equality with the negro, is but a specious and fantastic arrangement of words, by which a man can prove a horse chestnut to be a chestnut horse. I will say here, while upon this subject, that I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so. I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and the black races. There is a physical difference between the two, which in my judgment will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong, having the superior position.

I agree with Judge Douglas, [the black man] is not my equal in many respects -- certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral and intellectual endownments; ....

98 posted on 02/04/2003 7:22:57 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: Aurelius; PistolPaknMama
"Quote Lincoln on the idea that blacks were "inferior" to whites."

This is the whole of it, and anything that argues me into his idea of perfect social and political equality with the negro, is but a specious and fantastic arrangement of words, by which a man can prove a horse chestnut to be a chestnut horse. I will say here, while upon this subject, that I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so. I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and the black races. There is a physical difference between the two, which in my judgment will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong, having the superior position.

I agree with Judge Douglas, [the black man] is not my equal in many respects -- certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral and intellectual endownments; ....

This Pistolpaknmama person made a statement on another thread that more blacks were lynched in "one day" (that's a quote) in the New York draft riots in 1863 than were lynched in 80 years in the south.

That statement is patently absurd.

Now, this same person has said that Lincoln called blacks "inferior" (that's a quote too).

I don't see the word "inferior" appearing in the excerpt of Lincoln's words you provide above.

Do you?

What I do see is Lincoln suggesting he doesn't -know- if blacks are inferior or not.

I also see Lincoln saying:

"So far as tested it is difficult to say they are as not as good soldiers as any."

To me, that is a statement of black equality, not inferiority.

Just found these:

I do not wish to be misunderstood upon this subject of slavery in this country. I suppose it may long exist, and perhaps the best way for it to come to an end peaceably is for it to exist for a length of time. But I say that the spread and strengthening and perpetuation of it is an entirely different proposition. There we should in every way resist it as a wrong, treating it as a wrong, with the fixed idea that it must and will come to an end.

March 1, 1859

I say now, however, as I have all the while said, that on the territorial question -- that is, the question of extending slavery under the national auspices, -- I am inflexible. I am for no compromise which assists or permits the extension of the institution on soil owned by the nation. And any trick by which the nation is to acquire territory, and then allow some local authority to spread slavery over it, is as obnoxious as any other.

February 1, 1861

Walt

116 posted on 02/05/2003 6:49:22 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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