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To: Non-Sequitur
What is it about Lincoln's quotes that offend you?

There's nothing about these quotes made by Lincoln that offend me, it's the insane attempts of Lincolnites to deny what Lincoln so plainly stated. Good grief, he was a man of HIS times, not of ours, and so what if some of his statements would be considered derogatory today? All the Lincolnites have to do is admit that Lincoln was a man of the times, just as others were, and forget this revolting revisionism.

138 posted on 02/05/2003 1:06:53 PM PST by 4CJ (Be nice to liberals, medicate them to the point of unconsciousness.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Sure he was a man of his times. His views, while out of step with today's standards, were no different than many of his peers and were still better than the southern leaders. He was a proponent of emigration for free Blacks, like Lee and Breckenridge and countless others, but the idea that he was for the forced removal of all Blacks is ridiculous. Nobody that I'm aware of, North or South, was for that. He was undeniably opposed to slavery and he did believe that blacks were entitled to the same protections of liberty outlined in the Declaration of Independence that whites were, which was heresy to many on both sides of the border. In short I don't pretend that Lincoln was perfect and I don't ignore that, but what I do find objectionable is the savaging of Lincoln and the ignoring of others with even worse beliefs. Why doesn't your offense extend to those with views even more objectionable than those you claim for Lincoln?
143 posted on 02/05/2003 1:30:45 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
All the Lincolnites have to do is admit that Lincoln was a man of the times, just as others were, and forget this revolting revisionism.

It can't be revision to cite events of the day:

"...For the newly freed and the newly enlisted black men who served in the Union army--in the end more than 179,000 of them---perhaps the greatest moment was when they they too, shared the experience of paying their respects, of marching past their president in their new uniforms, looking as smart and martial as any.

On April 23, 1864, and again two days later, newly mustered black regiments in a division attached to the IX corps passed through Washington on their way to the Virginia front. They marched proudly down Pennsylvania Avenue, past Willard's Hotel, where Lincoln and their commander, Burnside stood on a balcony watching. When the six black regiments came in sight of the president they went wild, singing, cheering, dancing in the street while marching. As each unit passed they saluted, and he took off his hat in return, the same modest yet meaningful acknowledgement he gave his white soldiers."

--"Lincoln's Men" pp 163-64 by William C. Davis

You are the one doing the revision.

Walt

144 posted on 02/05/2003 1:35:12 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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