Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: tubebender
I used the data from post #2341 to "reverse engineer" some assumptions regarding Shuttle speed and altitude at T = 80 seconds. I took the approach of 2nd-order polynomial curve fit, through T = 124 seconds (SRB staging). This yielded good "correlation" of model to data (R > 0.999). In layman's terms this is a pretty good model. From these curve fits, I estimated altitude, earth-relative velocity, and axial acceleration of the shuttle at T = 80 seconds. Then given these initial conditions, I extracted the atmospheric density from KCA-71 winter atmosphere model, which is quoted in a reference that I found.

Then, I reconfigured the (simple) axial simulation, to exit when relative axial displacement reaches about 53.4 feet. This is the axial distance from the forward attach point to the external tank, to the inflection (strike point) on the left wing. Lastly I adjusted the drag coefficient (Cd) of the foam to yield 511 mph when axial displacement reached 53.4 feet. Cd = 0.65 did the trick. This is actually somewhat low. I would expect something more like 1.2-1.7, because the foam should be fairly ragged and thus draggy. However, higher values of Cd yield even higher deceleration and impact velocities. In this iteration, I mostly wanted to see if I could match NASA's number (511 mph). The table below shows that this goal was achieved.

Assumptions:

V0 = 682.5 m/s (reverse engineered from data at post #2341)
Accel_XB = 12.1 m/s2 (reverse engineered from data at post #2341)
Alt = 20 km (reverse engineered from data at post #2341)
Rho = 0.08823 kg/ms (from KCA-71 winter model for 20 km altitude)
Sref = 0.120492 m^2 (spherical approx for 1920 in^3 -- very conservative)
Mass = 1.211 kg
Cd = 0.65 (yields 511 mph Vrel at 53.4 ft axial displacement)

Time since separation (s)

Relative axial velocity (mph)

Relative axial displacement (ft)

0.000

0.00

0.00

0.030

85.66

0.96

0.060

162.37

3.70

0.090

231.46

8.05

0.120

294.04

13.84

0.150

350.97

20.95

0.180

403.00

29.25

0.210

450.74

38.65

0.240

494.70

49.05

0.252

510.93

53.37

My initial velocity is slightly different from the 1570 mph stated by Dittemore. I chose to stay with this number because (A) it's consistent with other assumptions that I made and (B) I think that Dittemore was quoting inertial velocity which includes Earth rotation. Not that much difference between them anyway.

2,440 posted on 02/17/2003 9:27:51 PM PST by Resolute
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2406 | View Replies ]


To: Resolute
Correcting a typo: Rho = 0.08823 kg/m^3 (at 20 km altitude)
2,443 posted on 02/17/2003 10:18:47 PM PST by Resolute
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2440 | View Replies ]

To: Resolute
Even foam hitting at that speed could surely cause significant damage to anything it hit. I said somewhere that the disaster was 16 days late.
2,444 posted on 02/17/2003 10:43:33 PM PST by tubebender (?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2440 | View Replies ]

To: Resolute
2440 - good. Now what's your interpretation of that data?
2,448 posted on 02/18/2003 4:58:23 AM PST by XBob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2440 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson