Posted on 02/03/2003 11:54:17 PM PST by kattracks
GANG-GREEN really know well how to put on an intense political "full court press" and it can make any politician feel totally under seige!!! I know first hand about this!!!
I don't think C.O. is as much attacking the Bushes as he is disappointed they still don't exhibit the political courage to fight this crap in effective ways. Remember, I met him (C.O.) at the biggest protest in Sacto since the Vietnam anti-war demonstrations, trying to support BushII and stop the Algore/Kazinsky election theft! (lesser of two evils, as always)
Enjoy you fishin trip and hurry back safely.
Given that EPA had five years (or more) of data on MTBE: its volatility, its byproducts of combustion, how it condenses in water, how it diffuses through plastic, how it precipitates in rain, its effect on seals and hoses, hell they even predicted how many vehicles might catch fire... and THEN the majors demanded indemnification before supporting the Amendments to the Clean Air Act. Do you really mean to tell me that nobody in the Bush Administration knew and this was all a matter of political pressure? Are you telling me that nobody was smart enough to see the potential environmental harm and turn this thing against the greenies? Don't you remember who coordinates how those greenies get their money?
Whether negligently accountable or criminally culpable, the onus is the same.
Within hours of this terrible disaster there were some on FR claiming that the disaster was the result of NASAs incompetence, that the disaster was avoidable and that the cover up had already began. They have offered up memos, doctored photos and wild rumor as evidence.
In order to be true than we must also assume that the seven astronauts who died were fools or somehow duplicitous in their own deaths. Are we expected to believe that the knowledge of a few rumor mongers on the internet is greater then that of those who flew on Challenger?
Are we to believe that these seven astronauts were not aware of the foam problems on the shuttle program or the effects of budget cuts on the program? Are we to believe that they were foolish enough to fly a platform into space that was doomed from the beginning as some on FR claim?
If we accept their speculation then we must also assume that their fellow astronauts, walking the woodlands of east Texas looking for their remains, will not seek to discover the real cause of their deaths, but will work to cover up for NASA. Do you really believe this?
Is this what weve come to on FR? This doesnt just smear NASA, it smears the seven brave people we honor today.
I'm just curious if you also think it's an insult to homicide, robbery, or assault victims when their family and friends exercise their God given talents to investigate who
carried out those crimes, when the police are unable to asertain who did it? In this instance we have an agency that has two vested interests, full disclosure and the
welfare of the agency itself. Why it would be an insult to the astronauts to make sure they weren't short-changed in the process, is beyond me.
I have seen the product of your logic before. It's generally interesting, but seldom very sound. Don't give up.
Within hours of this terrible disaster there were some on FR claiming that the disaster was the result of NASAs incompetence, that the disaster was avoidable and that the cover up had already began. They have offered up memos, doctored photos and wild rumor as evidence. In order to be true than we must also assume that the seven astronauts who died were fools or somehow duplicitous in their own deaths. Are we expected to believe that the knowledge of a few rumor mongers on the internet is greater then that of those who flew on Challenger?
Are we to believe that these seven astronauts were not aware of the foam problems on the shuttle program or the effects of budget cuts on the program? Are we to believe that they were foolish enough to fly a platform into space that was doomed from the beginning as some on FR claim?
If we accept their speculation then we must also assume that their fellow astronauts, walking the woodlands of east Texas looking for their remains, will not seek to discover the real cause of their deaths, but will work to cover up for NASA. Do you really believe this?
Is this what weve come to on FR? This doesnt just smear NASA, it smears the seven brave people we honor today.
You find this embarassing? This is the product of your logic? I do feel sorry for you.
Been out looking for work all day...
The early astronauts were real pains in the ass for the engineers and flight directors, demanding this and that be added to the vehicles (like escape hatches and manual control options). These guys trusted their own judgement, and weren't dazzled by gadgetry or hollow assurances.
I don't think the new guys have the same self-assurance, the same "yank", the same war-hardened character that would spurr them to defy the bigshots if they discerned something was amiss--"step aside, son: there's a hundred more waiting to take your spot." Not the same grit. More of a reticent 'team player' attitude, and an unwise trust in 'the system'.
The old-timers knew they were lab-rats and monkeys, but they did things on their own terms: the program needed them more than they needed the program.
Bearing that observation in mind, I think it somewhat safe to surmise that yes, these guys could be foolish enough to fly a doomed platform into space: exactly what Grissom, Glenn, Shirra, Carpenter, Cooper and Shepard refused to do.
The problem with your thesis is that EXACTLY such a cover-up has happened before. It wasn't until Richard Feynman (a maverick physicist from Cal-Tech) was brought in from outside NASA, that the truth about the Challenger disaster came out. As I recall, NASA suppressed the complaints of Morton Thiokol engineers that the cold temperature performance of the o-rings in the solid rocket boosters was inadequate. The engineers recommended that the Challenger launch should be scrubbed below a specific air temperature and were over-ruled. As whistleblowers their jobs were threatened.
There is a line of applicants for astronaut positions a mile long. The risks are relatively low while the personal ambition and competition for the flight positions is extreme. They know that if they upset the bureaucrats they may never fly. How many of them would risk that opportunity by upsetting an established and massive set of incestuous military, civic, and corporate interests? How would these technologists find an aerospace job after being kicked out of the space program on trumped up bases?
So perhaps the situation is more convoluted than you think it is.
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Date: March 19, 1999
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AEDC Performs Shuttle Materials Test for NASA/Lockheed Martin
ARNOLD AFB, Tenn.Arnold Engineering Development Center is assisting the National Aeronautics Space Administration with improvements in existing Space Shuttle materials.
According to NASA, during several previous Space Shuttle flights, including the shuttle launched Nov. 29, 1998, the shuttle external tank experienced a significant loss of foam from the intertank. The material lost caused damage to the thermal protection high-temperature tiles on the lower surface of the shuttle orbiter. The loss of external tank foam material and subsequent damage to reentry tiles is a concern because it causes tile replacement costs to significantly increase, however, it is not a flight safety issue. As a result, NASA-Marshall Space Flight Center selected AEDC to perform flight hardware materials tests on the shuttles external tank panels in the centers von Karman Facility Supersonic Tunnel A. The purpose was to establish the cause of failure for the tank thermal protection materials at specified simulated flight conditions. "NASA chose AEDC due to its technical expertise and historical program successes," Steve Holmes, a NASA-MSFC technical coordinator, said.
The Lockheed Martin-manufactured non-reusable external tank, the largest element of the Space Shuttle, fuels the shuttle orbiter during powered flight and is comprised of three componentsa liquid oxygen tank, a liquid hydrogen tank and an intertank assembly that connects the two propellant tanks. At the full capacity of 528,600 gallons of propellant, the external tank weighs 1.6 million pounds. The tank is covered with a multi-layered, spray-on foam insulation that provides thermal insulation for the tank against the extreme internal and external temperatures generated during prelaunch, launch and flight.
Wayne Hawkins, Sverdrup project engineer, explained the foam system is exposed to multiple forces, causing difficulty in determining the actual failure of the thermal protection system. "Multiple forces act on the foam system," Hawkins said. "The environmental factors include thermal protection system cell expansion, aerodynamic loading, highly variable local flow conditions, oscillating shocks, vibration, temperature and main external tank substrate flexure."
Although NASA and other facilities have performed a number of tests in an attempt to define the underlying root cause of this foam loss, they were not successful. At one time, the centers 4-foot and 16-foot transonic aerodynamic wind tunnels were possibilities for the test, but Tunnel As ability to closely duplicate flight conditions and control both ambient pressure and test sample immersion time made it the facility of choice. Tunnel A is a continuous flow-variable density wind tunnel with an automatically driven flexible-plate nozzle and a 40- by 40-inch test section and can cover the Mach number range of 1.5 to 5.5.
"The ideal success for the test is the generation of foam loss on a consistent basis with simulated flight conditions," Hawkins said.
Although the AEDC Tunnel A tests did not replicate the in-flight failures, they did provide detailed measurements to better understand the flight environment and fundamental failure mode. From these tests, NASA determined the failure is caused principally by foam cell expansion due to external heating at approximately Mach 4 combined with pressure change and aerodynamic shear. Specialized miniature shear gages and other instrumentation were installed during the test to measure these forces. The customer and sponsor were pleased with the AEDC test results. "No other facility can test with articles/models as large as AEDC with conditions that can match flight," Holmes said.
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STS-87 rolled to a stop; the mission was complete! That statement would be true for the flight of the Columbia, however a new mission began when the wheels of the Columbia came to a stop -- the post flight inspections. My division is responsible for the overall analysis of these inspections and we insure that all changes made, due to these inspections, do not affect other areas that may jeopardize the flight-worthiness of the shuttle. This division does not focus on one specific area, but analyzes all information and ensures that all aspects are kept in balance.
Immediately after the Columbia rolled to a stop, the inspection crews began the process of the post flight inspection. As soon as the orbiter was approached, light spots in the tiles were observed indicating that there had been significant damage to the tiles. The tiles do a fantastic job of repelling heat, however they are very fragile and susceptible to impact damage. Damage numbering up to forty tiles is considered normal on each mission due to ice dropping off of the external tank (ET) and plume re-circulation causing this debris to impact with the tiles. But the extent of damage at the conclusion of this mission was not "normal."
The pattern of hits did not follow aerodynamic expectations, and the number, size and severity of hits were abnormal. Three hundred and eight hits were counted during the inspection, one-hundred and thirty two (132) were greater than one inch. Some of the hits measured fifteen (15) inches long with depths measuring up to one and one-half (1 1/2) inches. Considering that the depth of the tile is two (2) inches, a 75% penetration depth had been reached. Over one hundred (100) tiles have been removed from the Columbia because they were irreparable. The inspection revealed the damage, now the "detective process" began.
During the STS-87 mission, there was a change made on the external tank. Because of NASA's goal to use environmentally friendly products, a new method of "foaming" the external tank had been used for this mission and the STS-86 mission. It is suspected that large amounts of foam separated from the external tank and impacted the orbiter. This caused significant damage to the protective tiles of the orbiter. Foam cause damage to a ceramic tile?! That seems unlikely, however when that foam is combined with a flight velocity between speeds of MACH two to MACH four, it becomes a projectile with incredible damage potential. The big question? At what phase of the flight did it happen and what changes need to be made to correct this for future missions? I will explain the entire process.
The questions that needed to be answered were:
At this point, virtually every inch of the orbiter was inspected and all hits were documented and mapped to aid in visualizing the damage. Maps were constructed of the lower surface, the left and right surfaces and the top surface of the orbiter. At this point, a "fault tree" was created. The fault tree provides a systematic approach in considering all possibilities of what may have happened. Everything that is on the fault tree is considered to be legitimate until it is totally ruled out. Some of the considerations were where the damage occurred -- in the OPF, in the VAB, or on the pad before launch. These were quickly eliminated because an inspection at T-3 ("t minus three") hours takes place on each mission and everything was normal.
After these and many other considerations were eliminated, the focus was placed on the ascent, orbit and re-entry phase of the mission. Because of the fore and aft flow characteristics of the damage sites, and the angle of penetration, the ascent phase seemed most likely. The orbit phase of flight was eliminated because the characteristics of these types of hits (most likely meteorites or space debris) occur in a random pattern and direction. Re-entry was eliminated because the "glazing and re-glassifying" of the tiles due to heat upon re-entry (a normal process) indicated that the damage had occurred prior to this phase. The fault-tree was now pointing to the ascent phase.
The pictures that were taken by cameras mounted in the orbiter umbilical began to give the first clues. These cameras are designed to turn on during the solid rocket booster (SRB) separation, and turn off after the separation is complete, thereby recording the event. This process occurs once again when the external tank separates from the orbiter. The initial review of these photographs did not reveal any obvious damage to the external tank. No foam missing, no "divots" (holes) and no material loss. Everything appeared normal.
The SRBs were then focused on for the answers. After inspection of the SRBs, no clues were found. In fact, the solid rocket boosters looked to be in great condition. Where to now? The external tank photographs were magnified and reviewed once again. This time some material loss was noted, but not in a significant degree. The attention was now focused on the crew cabin cameras. These cameras gave more of a side view of the external tank as it tumbled back to Earth. These photographs revealed massive material loss on a side of the external tank that could not be viewed by the umbilical cameras!
Where are we now? One of the questions had now been answered. The ascent phase of flight was when the damage occurred. With the information provided by the photography and the mapped flow of damage, a logical reason could be established as to "what" happened. It was determined that during the ascent, the foam separation from the external tank was carried by the aerodynamic flow and pelted the nose of the orbiter and cascaded aft from that point. Once again, this foam was carried in a relative air-stream between MACH two and MACH 4!
Now the big question -- why? The evidence of this conclusion has now been forwarded to Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC) because this is the design center for the external tank. MSFC will pursue the cause of damage. Here are some descriptions of some of the considerations:
As this investigation continues, I am very comfortable that the questions will be answered and the solutions applied. In fact, some of the solutions are already in progress. At present the foam on the sides of the tank is being sanded down to the nominal minimum thickness. This removes the outer surface, which is tougher than the foam core, and lessens the amount of foam that can separate and hit the orbiter.
"Environmentally Friendly Foam Kills Seven Astroauts."
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