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As for the leaders still at large, surely we know generally where some are hiding. Pakistan seems to be one likely place.

Wouldn't it be reasonable to insist that the "host" nations go to great lengths, to capture them? We haven't heard very much, about such efforts, in muslim and arab locations.

Why? Are the efforts taking place, or not? Are they taking place, without success?

Or are such efforts merely half-measures, aimed to placate the US, while not stirring up local tensions?

As for the leaders still at large, surely we know generally where some are hiding. Pakistan seems to be one likely place.

Wouldn't it be reasonable to insist that the "host" nations go to great lengths, to capture them? We haven't heard very much, about such efforts, in muslim and arab locations.

Why? Are the efforts taking place, or not? Are they taking place, without success?

You may have not "heard very much," but much has been reported (and doubtless much more has not been). Pakistan is a major haven, but the Pakis are working hard on this, are cooperating with U.S. intelligence, and their police and military personel are putting their lives in danger on an almost daily basis. Pakistan has rounded up over 400 al-Qaeda, including some of the biggest fish yet netted.

Here is one:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/comp/articleshow?artid=36387209

Five close aides of Dawood detained in Dubai

PTI[ MONDAY, FEBRUARY 03, 2003 08:48:47 PM ]

NEW DELHI: Five close aides of Pakistan-based underworld don Dawood Ibrahim including his brother Noora have reportedly been detained by authorities in Dubai, informed sources said on Monday night.

The five persons detained by the authorities are believed to also include Mohammed Dossa and Aftab Batki, the sources said.

While Dossa is wanted in connection with the 1993 serial blasts in Mumbai, Batki is required by New Delhi for his involvement in various cases of counterfiet currency.

Although no case is pending against Noora, he is alleged to be the main man behind various extortion rackets in India.

These five were part of the list that was handed over to the authorities in the United Arab Emirates during the deportation of Aftab Ansari, main accused in the shooting incident at American Center at Kolkata in January last year, the sources said.

My impression is that most Arabic countrys are more like the mafia than government. There are areas in their own countrys that their control is weak at best. Since all it takes is one bullet to vote the present tyrant out of office and that is how the present tyrant got in office, they spend far more time looking over their shoulders than anything else.

Pakistan is our ally, as long as we hold the gun to their heads. The minute we blink, a knife will appear in our backs. These are not "judeao-christian" nations over there.

I am sure the prez of Paki would have toasted these guys a long time ago if he was able. Now he would be glad to toast them twice, for the reward money. But for his "allies"? There are no allies in Moslem nations, only mutual respect of power.

The president of Pakistan is very pro US relative to the population. He’s providing military basses and investigative/police efforts, but Pakistan is a democracy. We don’t want to force him to undertake such a degree of search and destroy missions throughout his country as to be unelectable unless we’re prepared to police and administer their nation.