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White House Was Warned of Shuttle Safety (Media Bias Alert)
Reuters ^ | February 3, 2003 | Randall Mikkelsen

Posted on 02/03/2003 3:11:05 PM PST by Indy Pendance

First, an August 29, 1995 letter to the White House, the next section is the Reuters story.


Garcia Letter on Shuttle Safety

29 August 1995

The Honorable Bill Clinton
President of the United States
The White House
Washington, DC


Dear Mr. President:

The biggest threat to the safety of the Shuttle and its crew since the Challenger disaster is presently under way at NASA. My concerns, as well as those of my colleagues, are falling on deaf ears. In their misguided attempt to economize, they have lost sight of what keeps the Shuttle safe. There are ways to economize and still keep the Shuttle safe, without dismantling the best launch team in the world.

I am a NASA manager with over 30 years at Kennedy Space Center (KSC) working on Manned Spacecraft. Prior to Mr. Goldin's tenure at NASA, I always felt that any concerns I might have had on any subject could be addressed to management and a sincere effort would be made to resolve my concerns. Now I feel I can't even voice my concern. Talented and capable high level managers who I know share these concerns, as a result, are leaving the program. It is very disappointing that for whatever reason these individuals, who would have a much greater impact than my speaking out, haven't had the intestinal fortitude to speak their mind for the good of the program. It is very difficult to have a free exchange of ideas in our present environment. Recently, at a meeting with KSC middle management, Mr. Goldin said, "I have all my people in all the right places and anyone who doesn't line up is gone." An environment for a free exchange of ideas? I don't think so!

As a result of the re-inventing government and budget cutting efforts underway in Washington, all federal agencies (including and especially NASA) are going through reorganization and down-sizing. Mr. Dan Goldin has the difficult task of developing a way to accomplish these goals within NASA. I am writing this letter to elaborate and emphasize my concern about Mr. Goldin's efforts to delete the 'checks and balances' system of processing shuttles as a method toward saving money. Historically NASA has employed two engineering teams at KSC, one contractor and one government, to cross check each other and prevent catastrophic errors. Although this technique is expensive, it is effective, and it is the single most important factor that sets the Shuttle's success above that of any other launch vehicle.

Operational efficiencies within NASA should be accomplished with minimal, if any, effect on the safety of the shuttle and its crew. Anyone who doesn't have a hidden agenda or fear of losing his job would admit that you can't delete NASA's checks and balances system of Shuttle processing without affecting the safety of the Shuttle and its crew.

I know that NASA, like all other federal agencies, needs to become more efficient and economize, but the last place that any sudden or drastic changes within NASA should occur is in the hands-on shuttle processing operations. In our business there is little margin for error and there are no second chances; therefore, any changes should be made judiciously.

The very last place that cuts should be made are in hands-on NASA/contractor shuttle processing efforts from launch preparation through landing. Unfortunately, it has been the first place cuts have been made during the past year, and is now the object of an unconscionable attempt to drastically change the 'checks and balances' system which has been the backbone of safe manned space flight.

Mr. Goldin is trying to be more efficient and do things more economically within NASA; however, because his background lies in unmanned space vehicle operations, he does not understand the additional requirements of manned space vehicle processing. He speaks of safety, but his actions and direction on shuttle processing are anything but safe. I know that there is no one in Congress or the country that wants us to do anything to jeopardize the safety of the shuttle or its crew.

Privatize a national resource?? No, I don't believe it wise nor that it is what the American public wants. The Shuttle is a national resource that belongs to the American public - not a contractor. The Shuttle is also a complex R&D vehicle - you can't privatize its processing like you would the running of a cafeteria. Drastically changing the 'checks and balances' method of processing by taking NASA out of the process and leaving it to a contractor is unwise. It would be better to cancel the manned space flight program than to recklessly endanger a future shuttle and its crew.

All NASA managers, whether located at KSC, JSC, MSFC, or NASA Headquarters would like to think that they are the main reason for the success and safety of the Shuttle. However, the policies and procedures established at KSC and the checks and balances performed by the KSC NASA/contractor team of systems engineers working around the clock are the real reasons for the success and safety of the Shuttle. The flight controllers at JSC and the supporting design centers do a great job, but their performances depend solely on the hardware that KSC delivers.

NASA was in the process of declaring the shuttle operational and turning the pre-launch processing over to a contractor just prior to the Challenger disaster. It was a mistake then and it is a mistake now. Let me re-emphasize what was pointed out by independent post Challenger investigation committees and stated to me personally by Dr. Feynman, a Nobel Prize winning physicist. Dr. Feynman indicated the following to me: "The shuttle is an R&D vehicle and needs to be dealt with as such. The Orbiter is not growing more reliable with time - just the opposite. We are charting new water every day. The environment that the shuttle is exposed to is taking its toll, we don't know the effect it is having on the shuttle. We should be doing more pre-launch checks - not less."

As a current KSC Shuttle Operations Manager, I can attest that over 50% of the turnaround processing work at KSC is unplanned. Our engineers and contractors continually find new areas of concern and develop innovative solutions to keep the Shuttle flying safely. Our current system of 'checks and balances' is an integral part of safely doing this job. It is not an overlap or duplication of effort as suggested by some.

Removing NASA from everyday hands-on Shuttle processing efforts, and instead authorizing NASA to perform only audit functions, would result in NASA processing the Shuttle in the same manner that unmanned launch vehicles are presently processed.

My concerns for this type of Shuttle processing are reflected in the following statistics: Since 1985, the Shuttle success rate has been 97.56% as compared to 95% for U. S. Department of Defense, 87% for U. S. Civil/Commercial and 92% for European Commercial. The Shuttle program has a 98.59% success rate for the life of the program. Please note that if the Shuttle had the same success rate as it competitors, NASA would no longer even have a Shuttle fleet, not to mention the loss of astronaut lives.

Since Shuttle hardware is not only older than that of unmanned launch vehicle hardware, it is also reusable, then why is the success rate of the Shuttle better? Could it be that the processes and procedures and checks and balances used in its pre-launch checkout produce this success?

KSC has made numerous changes to streamline pre-launch processing. Both the contractor and NASA have down-sized (approximately 30%) without significantly jeopardizing Shuttle safety. Until recently, we were continuing our downsizing efforts, but we were doing it prudently. Today, it appears that KSC's management is climbing on Goldin's "BUS TO ABILENE."

The KSC NASA/contractor launch team is in the risk management business. Drastically changing the KSC launch team will unequivocally increase risk to the Shuttle and its crew. If these drastic changes are implemented, the perpetrators should not only be held accountable for their action, they should be held "criminally liable" for the consequences.

The KSC Shuttle launch team (NASA/contractor) is the best in the world. We shouldn't let Mr. Goldin dismantle it. Let's keep KSC a Center of Excellence. We are running out of time. We really need your help. Possibly an independent group, as was formed post-Challenger, is needed to make an independent assessment of the consequence of deleting the 'check and balances' system of shuttle processing. This is the biggest shuttle safety concern since the Challenger accident.

The safety of the shuttle needs your help.

Sincerely yours,




Jose' Garcia


cc:
Honorable Congressman Dave Weldon, House, 15th District
Mr. Dan Goldin, NASA Administrator
Mr. Jay Honeycutt, KSC/NASA Director
Mr. George W. S. Abbey, JSC/NASA Acting Director
Mr. John W. Young, Special Assistant for Engineering, Operations, and Safety
Mr. John Manning, Aerospace Safety Advisory Panel
Mr. Michael J. Coleman, President and Publisher, Florida Today
Mr. Thomas Curley, President and Publisher, USA Today


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To: Fred Mertz; Howlin
My wife just read this thread and when I told her how old Howlin is, she couldn't believe it. To be nice I pegged howlin too.

Rush even came back to help with the rat battle today. He wrote a piece about it below. All I did was bring the news here to report on what was coming and you would of thought the world ended.


Shuttle Accident Appallingly Politicized Already

One of the most appalling things about the coverage of the space shuttle accident has been the Democrats' attempt to exploit the tragedy for petty political gain. It is uncanny the depths to which they have sunk in order to get their power back, in order to "get their message out," which they don't think they're doing. They're blaming George W. Bush for the Columbia's disintegration because of budget cuts and the privatization of the program.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_020303/content/truth_detector.guest.html
161 posted on 02/03/2003 8:24:46 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
We all have to realize that this is the strategy - nothing new. Politicize everything. Honestly, I hope it continues, because it will only increase the American publis's awareness of the Democratic 'message' - which is hate and blame. They will never learn, I hope. Let's move on.
162 posted on 02/03/2003 8:28:27 PM PST by ysoitanly
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To: ysoitanly
publis = public's
163 posted on 02/03/2003 8:29:11 PM PST by ysoitanly
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To: TLBSHOW
TLB is right and so is Rush. Good show, old chap!
164 posted on 02/03/2003 8:30:01 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: ruready4eternity
I have relative in NS. I've never met them, wouldn't even know who they are. It's good to have you here. Welcome!
165 posted on 02/03/2003 8:36:03 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: TLBSHOW
My wife just read this thread and when I told her how old Howlin is, she couldn't believe it.

Did you let her see the thread about you that's up over at the little place right now?

166 posted on 02/03/2003 8:53:05 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
A man with a wife wouldn't post here 16 hours a day. I think he is making it up. *Grin*
167 posted on 02/03/2003 8:57:30 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Indy Pendance
The Honorable Bill Clinton

Sorry, lost me already.

168 posted on 02/03/2003 9:12:18 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Theyknow
He did try to fix it.

He can't fix it.

Clinton closed the assembly lines.

It's called "downsizing" the military.

Now tell the RATS to go home.
169 posted on 02/03/2003 9:20:07 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: Fred Mertz
I believe he provided this alert on Saturday evening with the intent to prepare us for the onslaught which was to come on Monday. He was correct.

Oh come on, Fred. TLB took the letter as the 'cause' and deduced the 'effect' to be that NASA was deliberately complicit in the deaths of 7 astronauts. I hardly give such 'public service credit' as you do, no matter WHAT the TLB's spin is now.

170 posted on 02/03/2003 9:30:15 PM PST by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor. Only YOU can prevent Freepathons!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Bush being at fault, who in their right mind would buy into that stuff?

For starters, all those goofs who keep repeating 'no blood for oil'? And still I keep on hearing it, like it was some great oraculance from Delphi. I know you all know what I mean. It seems that half this country is made up of parrot minds.

Right minds appear to be in the minority.

Those whose efforts are to try and nip this one in the bud early are right minds. :)

171 posted on 02/03/2003 10:19:13 PM PST by My back yard (Great are the brave pioneers of the greatest but grave frontiers.)
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To: Fred Mertz; TLBSHOW; Howlin; anniegetyourgun; Miss Marple; Chad Fairbanks; Mo1; dogbyte12; ...
Fred, if TLB was just bringing the Don Nelson 'memo issue" to light in order to give us a heads up here on FR, as you and he NOW claim, how do you explain these?

To: Miss Marple

You miss the point. This mission should never of happened. The shuttle should of been grounded until things were fixed RIGHT.....see the Nelson letter to President Bush.

556 posted on 02/03/2003 10:54 AM PST by TLBSHOW


To: Timesink

This could of been prevented.

8 posted on 02/03/2003 6:07 AM PST by TLBSHOW


To: Mo1

It should never of even gone up that is the bottom line. There was warnings before.


51 posted on 02/03/2003 6:28 AM PST by TLBSHOW To: BureaucratusMaximus

This is negligence plain and simple.

BUMP

58 posted on 02/03/2003 6:29 AM PST by TLBSHOW


To: Mo1

It was not an act of God it was NASA and there was plenty of warnings for years!

98 posted on 02/03/2003 6:39 AM PST by TLBSHOW


To: Mark Felton

This launch should of been halted!~

144 posted on 02/03/2003 6:56 AM PST by TLBSHOW


To: HairOfTheDog

this isn't a hatchet job its NASA that did NOT do their lob and 7 people are dead!

283 posted on 02/03/2003 7:51 AM PST by TLBSHOW


To: PBRSTREETGANG

Sorry no I can't take credit for that.

The only one that can take credit for that is Don Nelson who sent a warning to President Bush in the summer, and in dec the President said no he would not stop the program.

310 posted on 02/03/2003 8:06 AM PST by TLBSHOW


To: Fred Mertz

If this happened in the civilian sector, there would probably be negligent homicide charges filed at some point in the investigation. I doubt that will happen with NASA.

365 posted on 02/03/2003 8:30 AM PST by TLBSHOW


To: Timesink

Now telling that the WH rebuffed Don and says there will now be a push to say oh its just one of those things we could do nothing to cover their backside but truth is there was warnings and the people in power don't want to stop it because the program may never get off the ground and all the pork is gone.


672 posted on 02/03/2003 2:18 PM PST by TLBSHOW


To: ET(end tyranny)

I saw that, if anyone would of listened these 7 people would not be dead!

689 posted on 02/03/2003 2:32 PM PST by TLBSHOW


So you see Fred...if you read all of these posts...and this is from one thread only, I have a REALLY hard time attributing an altruistic, 'just did it to give FR a heads up' motive to old TLB.

Frankly, your defense with this 'just giving FR a heads up about what was going to hit the media', doesn't hold water based on TLB's very own posts, does it?

172 posted on 02/03/2003 10:29:56 PM PST by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor. Only YOU can prevent Freepathons!)
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To: justshe
If this happened in the civilian sector, there would probably be negligent homicide charges filed at some point in the investigation. I doubt that will happen with NASA.

I agree with this one, since I wrote it in the first place.

173 posted on 02/03/2003 10:35:18 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Quix
Let's say he did know. The conversation probably went something like:

". . . Okay, they can't fix it, they can't dock with ISS, and there's no lifeboat. Are you sure that the damage to the wing precludes a safe reentry?"

"No. We'll just have to see, but the fact is that if there is enough damage, they were dead as soon as they launched."

"Then we'll just have to pray, wont we?"

It's not like we shot it out of space. It also isn't something you tell the media and the American people before it happens either.

"My fellow Americans, Columbia has sustained damage to its left wing, and it isn't clear whether they will make it home. I'm sure that you will join me in prayer as you watch with me Saturday to see if our seven brave crew reenter earth's atmosphere."

The networks would be selling ad space. It'd be more watched than the super bowl. No way he tells anyone even if he did know.
174 posted on 02/04/2003 6:33:55 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: First_Salute
"While we grieve for these astronauts, the cause for which they died will continue. America's journey into space will go on," Bush said in a speech to employees at the National Institutes of Health.
175 posted on 02/04/2003 7:22:58 AM PST by happygrl
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To: RinaseaofDs
CERTAINLY AGREE.
176 posted on 02/04/2003 8:24:27 AM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: Indy Pendance
A few hours after this occurred, I bet my husband that the Dems would be attempting to blame Bush for this by Monday. I won the bet. Too bad the Dems proved themselves as slimey as I had thought they were.
177 posted on 02/04/2003 2:23:03 PM PST by MEGoody
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