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Sen. Kerry Finds Grandfather Was Jewish
NY Times ^ | 2/3/03

Posted on 02/03/2003 1:52:26 PM PST by areafiftyone

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To: TN4Liberty
"Perhaps he was afraid that he would be discriminated against in the US as a Jew, so he adopted a name from the much beloved Irish of that era."

Remember that Kerry's grandfather settled in Boston. John Francis "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald was its Irish mayor from 1906-7 and 1910-13.

181 posted on 02/04/2003 1:20:30 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: areafiftyone
Got to change that diet! Is H57 kosher? And a circumcision (if he isn't already) at his age...OW!
182 posted on 02/04/2003 1:47:52 AM PST by philman_36
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To: JulieRNR21
Someone in my husband's family was supposed to have come up with the recipe for Heinz 57 sauce...however, he needed the cash and ended up selling it to someone -- Mr. Heinz, I presume -- who then went on to make a fortune with it.

If only...

183 posted on 02/04/2003 1:51:59 AM PST by IrishRainy
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To: Mia T; dennisw
Send your boy in the Army a salami

THIS I've done.

184 posted on 02/04/2003 4:08:22 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: katnip
Didn't Hilloree cone up with a a jewish uncle or something?
185 posted on 02/04/2003 4:10:56 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: areafiftyone
Mr. Kerry, you are so special. You managed to marry a wealthy woman, divorce her. Then marry an even wealthier woman. Get elected as a liberal Senator. Now, you are Jewish. What a cap to your life's achievements! (sarcasm)
186 posted on 02/04/2003 5:38:56 AM PST by John123
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To: blam
I thought Jewish was a religion, not a race?

Jewishness means two things - ethnicity (not race) AND religion. Jew who becomes a Buddist does not become a Chinese.

187 posted on 02/04/2003 5:49:43 AM PST by A. Pole
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To: angelwings49
Welcome to the FR sandbox!
188 posted on 02/04/2003 6:44:25 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: areafiftyone
Too bad that he's not going to discover that his wife DOES have a brain....After reading the Globe article about his wife, Mrs. Heinz, he needs no one else to undermine his campaign. The American public is about as ready to accept her as First Lady as they would be Arianna Huffington.

Wonder if he is going to express equal surprise when he discovers that he's cooked? Catsup, anyone?

189 posted on 02/04/2003 7:53:24 AM PST by MHT
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To: areafiftyone
If he were Native American, it would have been enough to get Kerry a piece of the Casino business. Poor guy just can't catch a break. Instead he has to settle for the second Jewish American to run for Prez. Must be desperation time in the Kerry camp, looking for anything to bring some excitement to his campaign.
190 posted on 02/04/2003 8:09:09 AM PST by LoneGOPinCT (From the Land of Liberalty)
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To: Howlin
ohhh! I'm so sorry.
191 posted on 02/04/2003 8:55:32 AM PST by malia
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To: TN4Liberty
This sounds so like an Algore move.

-and ol' hillbilly, don't forget her!!

These people will be anything you want them to be.

192 posted on 02/04/2003 8:59:49 AM PST by malia
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To: malia
I know! Wasn't I embarassing on Larry King Live last night? :-)
193 posted on 02/04/2003 9:04:49 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Miss Marple
While I find all this most suspicious at this particular time, I have to say that this is entirely possible. Jews sadly did hide their heritage--for self-preservation. They have been doing that since the Spanish Inquisition. This would have been not long after the Dreyfus affair in France when many Jews began to re-evaluate their place in Europe; Zionism became the option for some.

Genealogy is my hobby and I know that there is a lot of utter junk on the internet concerning family connections. I did a quick search on this and found it published on a website by William Addams Reitwiesner who appears to be a credible genealogist. He either works for the Library of Congress or is associated with it. He also gives exact citations where his material can be found; shoddy researchers do not do that. He is also associated with Gary Boyd Roberts who does work with Royal and famous genealogies and from what I know, he also does good research. So at this point, I would conclude that this is correct unless I see something to indicate differently.

What I do find interesting is that Reitwiesner thanks a corrrespondent who provided some of the information from an archive in NY. That person wished to remain anonymous. While I don't doubt the authenticity of this, I do think that the motives behind it are political.

194 posted on 02/04/2003 9:21:21 AM PST by twigs
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To: Miss Marple
Hello, Kate...Can it get a signed

Photo?

195 posted on 02/04/2003 9:52:22 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just be because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: IrishRainy
Someone in my husband's family was supposed to have come up with the recipe for Heinz 57 sauce...however, he needed the cash and ended up selling it to someone -- Mr. Heinz, I presume -- who then went on to make a fortune with it. If only...

If only.......Interesting.....too bad!

196 posted on 02/04/2003 2:31:17 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04........Across America!)
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To: NativeNewYorker
This I'VE done.

197 posted on 02/04/2003 7:23:21 PM PST by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: metesky
Lieberman/Kohn - 2004

LOL

198 posted on 02/04/2003 10:35:54 PM PST by NewYorker
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To: metesky
Fake?

LOL - you're on a roll!

199 posted on 02/04/2003 10:37:27 PM PST by NewYorker
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To: College Repub

I'm from Europe, and Multicultural (German, Italian and Black American), of the Liberal Jewish faith. Some of the posts that I've read prove that too many people know don't know enough about other cultures, religions and other countries and also that they don't know the difference between Nationality, Religion and Race, especially Americans. The whole fuss over John Kerry's Jewish Ancestry and Liebermann proves that Americans are no less antisemitic than any one else, although they always claim to be more open-minded and they are always so quick to point the finger at Europe and other Continents. America is just as racist as anyone else. Judaism is a religion and a heritage, meaning a tradition. IT IS NOT A RACE!, this kind of thinking is what led to Jewish persecution, slaughter forced deportation and isolation for 2,000 years. Jews have not been Hebrews for centuries, so why do people keep claiming that Judaism is a race. Saying that Jews aren't really German or Italian or American, etc. is just like saying that Blacks aren't really American, although they've lived in America for over 600 years. Jews have been German for 1,600 years and they've been Italian since ancient Rome. There are Jews in almost every country in the world, including in Africa, Arab Countries and in South America, so why do people keep suggesting that all Jews only have a white complexion and that they only stem from Western or Eastern Europe. The answer is plain ignorance. I have noticed that many Americans know very little about World History as well as little about their own history let alone Jewish History or any other history that isn't your average White, Christian Irish or English American History. It seems that classroom textbooks are as far as Americans go when it comes to researching history.Such ignorancy doesn't surprise me, because so many Americans are still unaware of the fact that multicultural and biracial people exist. Interracial dating is not seen as taboo as it is still seen in America and Europeans know alot about World History and about other Cultures and Religions and even some things about American History.Yes some Jews do say that Jewish is a Culture, but that's because they are aware of the fact that people tend to mistaken being Jewish for a race or a culture and if they say they are Italian and of the Jewish religion that the ignorant will get confused. There is so much racist propaganda on the Internet that says Jews are a race along with other stereotypes about Jews.If a Jew converts to another religion he or she is no longer Jewish, despite the fact that he or she may be Jewish by birth. He or she can say that he or she is Jewish by birth and reamin so by tradition, however religiously he or she is no longer Jewish. John Kerry is a Catholic nonetheless. The reality is that Religion and Color still plays an all to great role in politics which needs to change.


200 posted on 06/02/2004 2:15:44 PM PDT by Miss Independent
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