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Stern Caller Fools Rather Who Concedes: "I'm an Idiot"
MRC ^ | Monday, February 03, 2003 | BrentBaker

Posted on 02/03/2003 1:02:46 PM PST by fight_truth_decay

Dan Rather: "I'm an idiot, but that's beside the point." Another instance of extended live CBS coverage of a breaking news event, another instance of CBS and Dan Rather falling for an obvious crank call from a jerk trying to impress Howard Stern. Just as occurred on a Saturday in July 1999 when Rather was on the air to cover the crash of John Kennedy Jr.'s plane, on this Saturday CBS and Rather were once again gullible enough to be fooled by an obvious Stern caller and, once again, Rather was so clueless that he had to be informed by a colleague it was a crank call.

Before the exchange ended, however, the crank caller got Rather to concede: "I'm an idiot."

At about 10:55am EST on Saturday, Rather announced: "We have, we think, somebody on the phone now who believes that he may have some, may, underscore the word, may have some debris from the shuttle in his back yard. Let's try to bring him up now. Sir, are you on the phone with us?" "Mike Weller," identified on screen as "eyewitness, Euleff, TX," confirmed: "Yes I'm here Mr. Rather." Rather: "Dan please. If you would tell us who you are, where you are and what you see." Weller: "My name's Mike. I'm in Euliss Texas and a little over an hour ago I heard a loud explosion and a big piece of what appeared to be metal landed on my property. And it's lying there now and there's a lot of people here, obviously, looking at it. And they believe that it's one of Babbabooey's teeth." Russ Mitchell who was sitting next to Rather, barely audible off mike and off camera, recognized the reference to Stern's nick name for his producer: "Oh, we got a crank." Rather was undeterred from his scoop: "Hold on just one moment while I keep you. Mike, a lot of people don't know where Euleff Texas is. From Dallas you're in what direction and where?" Weller: "You're a real idiot, you know that?" [sound cut off during the word "that"] Mitchell pointed out what eluded Rather: "Unfortunately in these breaking news situations you have goofballs like him calling up. That was a crank call, unfortunately." Rather: "Well it was a crank call and it is true I'm an idiot, but that's beside the point. There's some times when our system of keeping these crank callers off of the phone works and sometimes it doesn't. This morning it didn't work. We apologize to you for that. That was a mistake on our part. Abject apology for it and we move on."

Don't producers do any kind of call-screening? These Howard Stern callers make crank calls during every major news event and they continue to get through. Makes you wonder how careful the networks are about other things they put on the air as accurate.

For Rather's gullibility during the Kennedy plane search, refer back to the July 19, 1999 CyberAlert: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/199/cyb19990719.asp#3

In these cases it's one part of the CBS family embarrassing another since both Rather and Stern work for the same company.


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Re: Kennedy Plane Search..score 2 that we know of !

Rather assured viewers: "It is deep within the professional id of CBS News to check and double check. Before we say something is a fact we like to have two independent sources. We’ll be clear with you as we go along what’s fact and what’s in the way of speculation."

Almost exactly two hours later, at about 1:15pm ET, Rather announced: "We now have Lieutenant Ed Gaynor of the United States Coast Guard, that they’ve now found some debris. Lieutenant, what can you tell us about this debris?" [yes, verb missing but that’s what he said.] By phone "Gaynor" reported: "Some debris has been spotted and it is consistent with debris from a Saratoga, whether it’s John F. Kennedy’s Saratoga we don’t know. We also found Bababooey’s teeth were laying all in the bay too. And Howard Stern and Bababooey were all there." [Bababooey is a reference to the producer of Stern’s radio show.] Rather, unfazed by how the caller had made abundantly clear he was phoney, plowed ahead with his big scoop: "Excuse me, when you said you have determined this debris is from a Piper Saratoga. [pause as Gaynor is barely heard as producer probably tunes him down] Well, I’m not sure that we heard correctly there Lieutenant Gaynor of the Coast Guard telling us, this is breaking information, I remind you again this is live television, we take in raw information, we do the best we can to be rock solid in stating fact. But now earlier there was a report of debris spotted, then there was a report from the FAA, Bob Orr said, well the FAA in effect steered us away from making any conclusions that the debris might or might not have anything to do with John Kennedy’s plane. But now, this just in, the Coast Guard Lieutenant says they have found debris. That debris, I believe that he said, we’ve lost him for the moment now, is consistent with a Piper Saratoga but that they couldn’t determine whether it was John F. Kennedy Junior’s Piper Saratoga aircraft. But this puts the late information in a whole new context, a whole new perspective."

Only after endorsing the caller’s information three times did Rather, maybe at the prompting of an amazed producer screaming in his ear, suggest that his big scoop was not so reliable: "I want to emphasize to you that this is raw information. Sometimes people call in and say things that aren’t true, sometimes you know cranks, that sort of thing happens. So let’s be very, very careful here with this information. One thought comes to mind. Was this actually the Coast Guard Lieutenant that we thought we were talking to? He jumped off that phone very pronto. Let’s go to Bob Orr in Washington."

1 posted on 02/03/2003 1:02:46 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
Wouldn't an idiot who chases an idiot...

be an idiot?

2 posted on 02/03/2003 1:04:04 PM PST by Nitro
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To: fight_truth_decay
An hour and a half later, at about 2:53pm ET, the same guy called up ABC News. By that time some real debris had actually been located. Peter Jennings asked: "Can you add anything to our knowledge of your search at the moment. We’ve just listened to one of your Coast Guard spokesman say you’ve identified more debris from an aircraft that would have belonged to Mr. Kennedy."
The caller, identified on-screen as "Lt. Ed Gainer [same name, different spelling, as on CBS], U.S. Coast Guard," got right to his gag: "That’s true. I’d like to know, do you know that Howard Stern thinks you’re a (bleep) ?
An angry Jennings fumed: "Ah, I see. Just cut this gentleman off, will you?
3 posted on 02/03/2003 1:05:48 PM PST by fight_truth_decay (Occupied)
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To: fight_truth_decay
"Peter, by the way, just for the record, this is Al Michaels. That was a totally farcical call."
4 posted on 02/03/2003 1:06:00 PM PST by jpl
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To: fight_truth_decay
This thread needs the picture of rather and castro together.
5 posted on 02/03/2003 1:06:33 PM PST by b4its2late
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To: fight_truth_decay
the crank caller got Rather to concede: "I'm an idiot."

I finally agree with Rather on something.

6 posted on 02/03/2003 1:07:43 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: fight_truth_decay
There was thread on this yesterday or the day before.

The caller is the idiot -- considering that the astronauts have real families who had just watched their loved ones disintegrate before their eyes. Dan Rather is no one I'd ever go to for news, but Dan was not the idiot on that particular call.

7 posted on 02/03/2003 1:08:20 PM PST by xzins (sometimes it's too difficult to talk about)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Dan Rather is an idiot, and the caller is an @$$#0!<.
8 posted on 02/03/2003 1:09:55 PM PST by steve-b
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To: fight_truth_decay
My question is what boob actually thinks taking a call from a chucklehead who saw something is news?

This is why the internet (and Free Republic, no less) is taking over with blow by blow true accounts.
9 posted on 02/03/2003 1:11:07 PM PST by mabelkitty
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To: xzins
I would say they were both idiots. However, Rather is an idiot every day of the week.
10 posted on 02/03/2003 1:11:53 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: b4its2late
This thread needs the picture of rather and castro together.

No! It's "Separated at birth" time...


11 posted on 02/03/2003 1:11:55 PM PST by ErnBatavia ((Bumperootus!))
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To: fight_truth_decay
My theory is the Stern callers say something to make the screener think they're a liberal, at which point Rather and CBS will believe anything they say.
12 posted on 02/03/2003 1:12:58 PM PST by colorado tanker (down with the axis of weasels)
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To: jpl
Jennings: We have on the phone with us as well Robert Higgins, who lives in the neighborhood and is on the ground and can see inside the van. Mr. Higgins.
Caller: Ah, yeass, ah, how are you?
Jennings: Ah, just about as tense as you are, sir.
Caller: Oh, my Lord, this is quite tenses.
Jennings: What can you see?
Caller: Ah, what I'm lookin' at ri' now is I'm lookin' at the van, and I see OJ kinna' slouchin' down lookin' very very upset. Now lookee here, he look very upset. I don' know what gon' be doin'.
Jennings: Can you... can you... can you see him doing anything specific? Is he merely sitting there?
Caller: He is just a-sittin' 'round, you know, just a-lookin' like he be very nervous
Jennings: Can you hear anything, Mr. Higgins?
Caller: It's just too much commotion, I here in the back of a news van, so I can' really hear that goo' but I can see it all. An' I see OJ. I see OJ, man, and he looks scared. An' I would be scared 'cause there's cops all deep in this.
Jennings: Thank you, Mr. Higgins.
Caller: An' Bobba Bouey to y'all!
Jennings: The driveway of O. J. Simpson's home in Brentwood... Clearly an effort being made to have him come out of the vehicle... In the doorway of the house: his friend, Al Cowlings...
Michaels: Peter, by the way, just for the record, this is Al Michaels. That was a totally farsical call.
Caller: Ah!
Jennings: Ahm.
Michaels: Lest anybody think that that was somebody who was truly across the street that was not. He said something in code at the end that's indicitave of the mentioning of the name of a certain radio talk show host.
Caller: Ah!
Jennings: OK, thanks.
Michaels: He was not there.
Jennings: OK, we have them on every coast. Thank you very much.
13 posted on 02/03/2003 1:13:17 PM PST by dead
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To: fight_truth_decay
And it's lying there now and there's a lot of people here, obviously, looking at it. And they believe that it's one of Babbabooey's teeth."

Boy, that's a real knee-slapper!
7 people burned alive on TV, yep... what an APPROPRIATE time to joke! </ sarcasm>

What an a$$clown.

14 posted on 02/03/2003 1:13:25 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: xzins
Dan was not the idiot on that particular call.

Russ Mitchell who was sitting next to Rather, barely audible off mike and off camera, recognized the reference to Stern's nick name for his producer: “Oh, we got a crank.” Rather was undeterred from his scoop: “Hold on just one moment while I keep you. Mike, a lot of people don't know where Euleff Texas is. From Dallas you're in what direction and where?”

His continuation after he was told it was a hoax cannot be deemed idiotic?

15 posted on 02/03/2003 1:14:42 PM PST by fight_truth_decay (Occupied)
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To: fight_truth_decay
I had thought that the Baba Yui comment suggested that the caller was an Anime fan.

Why does everyone assume he's a Stern listener?

16 posted on 02/03/2003 1:15:57 PM PST by jdege
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To: fight_truth_decay
Captain Jenks is a genius.
17 posted on 02/03/2003 1:18:04 PM PST by WhiteGuy
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To: fight_truth_decay
Only after endorsing the caller’s information three times did Rather, maybe at the prompting of an amazed producer screaming in his ear, suggest that his big scoop was not so reliable: "I want to emphasize to you that this is raw information. Sometimes people call in and say things that aren’t true, sometimes you know cranks, that sort of thing happens. So let’s be very, very careful here with this information. One thought comes to mind. Was this actually the Coast Guard Lieutenant that we thought we were talking to? He jumped off that phone very pronto. Let’s go to Bob Orr in Washington."

geez - what kinda idiot doesn't know Bobby Orr is in Boston??!

18 posted on 02/03/2003 1:18:49 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: dead; PJ-Comix
Bump! Jenks and Rather are idiots!
19 posted on 02/03/2003 1:19:24 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: mabelkitty
I am reminded of a Greta Van Sustren show shortly after the DC Snipers were caught. She had on someone via sattelite for an "exclusive" interview. Her first question was (paraphrasing): You were John Allen Muhammad neighbor right"

The interviewee responded "No"

Greta then asked "you lived down the street from him though right?"

Interviewee: No

Greta asked where do you live in relation to Muhammad?

Interviewee: I live a couple of streets over

Greta then asked him how well he knew Muhammad.

Interviewee responded that he never met him and didn't know him at all.

At that point, and certainly much earlier the interview should have ended. But no, Greta went on for another 10 minutes with this guy.

20 posted on 02/03/2003 1:20:14 PM PST by Phantom Lord (No Remorse)
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