[poet]

"Well....if giving up your freedom is inevitable, isn't slower better than faster?"

Not at all. If they take our freedoms blatantly on a faster pace, perhaps people would wake up before it was too late, which, IMO, it already too late.

If you haven't read the "patriot law, I suggest you do so and pay particular attention to the FACT that Section 802 has no expiration while the rest of the law has a 4 year lifespan. That is vert telling to me.

[RAT Patrol]

What are we going to do with you, poet? Anyway, let me just say that I am glad you argue these issues. However, it might be helpful to look for positives, check out the motives beneath the actions (not exactly an excuse, but it gives hope), and find ways to turn your complaints into persuasive action. We won't win the battle if we give up OR if we become so frustrated we lose our powers of persuasion.

There is always hope. I disagree with you on the fast/slow issue, though. Slow gives you more time to make your case.

[Con X-Poser]

<< If you haven't read the "patriot law, I suggest you do so ... >>

Why should anyone read the PATRIOT (gag!) law when it was voted into law before it was even completely written? The Congresspersons who voted on it hadn't read it yet, why should we? Just close your eyes (and minds) and trust Comrade Bush!

Has anyone stopped to think (what am I asking?!) that, even if Bush really was a Constitutional patriot (cough!) all this authority (fast track, line-item, war on terror) we are giving him will pass on to President Hillary in 2008?

[MEGoody]

I'm curious - what freedoms have you personally lost?