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Astronauts doomed from the start
.heraldsun ^ | 2/3/2003 | PHILLIP COOREY and ANNA COCK

Posted on 02/02/2003 6:35:58 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Astronauts doomed from the start

THE seven astronauts on space shuttle Columbia may have been doomed in the first moments after they were shot into space 16 days ago.

NASA officials are investigating whether loose foam from an external tank that struck Columbia's left wing during takeoff contributed to its disintegration under the stress of re-entering the Earth's atmosphere – one of the most dangerous parts of any shuttle mission. The last words between mission control at Houston and shuttle commander Rick Husband gave no clue of impending disaster:

Mission control: "Columbia, Houston, we see your tyre pressure messages and we did not copy your last."

Cdr Husband: "Roger, but . . ." No more was heard.

The homeward-bound space shuttle broke up in flames and trails of smoke and vapour over Texas yesterday, killing all seven astronauts aboard.

The disaster struck 16 minutes before Columbia, the oldest in the shuttle fleet at 22 years, was due to land at Cape Canaveral in Florida. Echoing the tragedy of space shuttle Challenger, which stunned the world 17 years last week, Columbia exploded at an altitude of about 63km as it was travelling 18 times the speed of sound.

The explosion scattered debris and human remains across hundreds of square kilometres in Texas and Louisiana and shook houses in the area around Nacogdoches, Texas.

Police in Hemphill, eastern Texas, said human remains believed to be from the crew of Columbia had been recovered.

"I can confirm human remains from the space shuttle Columbia have been found in the debris," Hemphill police spokeswoman Karen Steele said, declining to elaborate.

A burnt torso and thigh bone were found on a Texan country road while elsewhere a scorched helmet and arm patch from one of the space suits were discovered.

In a televised address to the nation, an emotional President George W. Bush paid homage to the astronauts, saying, "The crew of the shuttle Columbia did not return safely to earth but we can pray that they are safely home".

The sparse information NASA had yesterday seemed to point to failures on the craft's left side.

Sensors on the shuttle's left wing and in the left wheel gear detected a sudden temperature increase or failure minutes before the vehicle exploded 63km over Texas as it flew at more than 20,000km/h.

NASA had concluded only two days ago there was no serious damage to the tiles, but was uncertain last night.

"As we look at that now in hindsight we cannot discount that there might be a connection," stunned shuttle manager Ron Dittemore said.

Investigators have all but ruled out terrorism as a cause because the shuttle's high altitude and extreme speed effectively put it out of range of an attack from the ground.

Officials are focusing on the extent of damage sustained during take-off.

Experts said many other malfunctions could have destroyed the shuttle during re-entry, when a cocoon of hot plasma envelops the spacecraft.

Columbia's underside and the leading edges of its wings would have been subjected to some of the highest temperatures during re-entry – up to 1650C – as friction from air rushing by heated its surface, experts said.

During this critical period, computers control the shuttle's angle of descent as it flies with its nose pointed about 40 degrees upward; the slightest deviation from the ideal orientation can expose underprotected parts of the vessel, causing it to burn up.

The shuttle's chief defences against an inferno are about 28,000 heat-resistant tiles attached to its vulnerable aluminium exterior. Experts have worried about the tiles' tendency to break off during flights since the earliest days of experimental test flights.

Relatives of the astronauts – six Americans and an Israeli – watched in horror while waiting at Cape Canaveral's VIP area to welcome their loved ones.

Residents in Texas, Louisiana and Alabama reported hearing the explosion as the shuttle fell apart at more than 18 times the speed of sound.

Bob Molter from Palestine, Texas, said he had seen the shuttle break up in the sky.

"There was a big boom that shook the house for more than a minute, and I went outside because I thought there had been a train accident," he said.

"I looked up and saw the trails of smoke zig-zagging, going across the sky."

Thousand of pieces of debris landed over vast areas of Texas and Louisiana which experts said may take years to find. People were warned not to touch any wreckage because it might be contaminated with toxic propellants.

President George W. Bush rushed to the White House from where he described the disaster in a televised address as a national tragedy.

"The Columbia is lost. There are no survivors," he said, before later ordering all flags be flown at half-mast.

The crew, six of whom were married and five of whom had children, were relatively inexperienced. Only three had flown in space before.

NASA has ruled out human error.


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To: Howlin
and I can back that up with your nutty posts!
201 posted on 02/02/2003 10:09:54 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: #3Fan
You seem to like to dodge the obvious "speculation" that you have stated. "TILES FALLING OVER CALIFORNIA" That's what you said.
202 posted on 02/02/2003 10:11:02 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: TLBSHOW
The fact that it was witnessed as big and red over Las Vegas.

The fact that the left wing was damaged at lift off.

The fact someone in Utah saw things breaking off it there and the fact NASA says it heated up in 60 seconds.

Those are what you are presenting as FACT?

The fact that it was witnessed as big and red over Las Vegas.

Big and red? So is Rudolph's nose!

Where are the FACTS that back that up, not something you're read on FR and speculated on.

And I know you can cut and paste, so let's see the PRINTED FACTS from a reliable source.

203 posted on 02/02/2003 10:13:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: #3Fan
I've watched TV today and seen quite a few clips. I've seen the one where it does indeed look like a snowball, and where it goes under the wing and sprays.

And then from another angle it has a slight orange color, and it also sprays.

I am beginning to think that the nature of the foam (it was spray on) would of allowed it to do that. :-)

204 posted on 02/02/2003 10:14:38 PM PST by Jael
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To: Howlin
Actually, at the moment they broke up there were, in fact, at the maxium point of descent.

Right. Over Texas.

205 posted on 02/02/2003 10:14:43 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: TLBSHOW
That's your answer to my question asking your for proof, that I'm crazy?

That's the best you can do?

Where is your proof that First they are looking at the photos and films that were made.

If you don't post a link, I'll assume that you just made that up, as usual.

206 posted on 02/02/2003 10:15:39 PM PST by Howlin
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To: A Citizen Reporter; #3Fan
There are many who seem to want to talk about seeing "tiles falling" and "events happenning" over California

Like Mr. Dittemore?

"In addition, Dittemore said images taken by an observer in California that appears to show an early trail of debris behind the shuttle will be examined and compared with the actual telemetry. "We're going to overlay his report with what the data shows to us and hopefully the two of them will help us piece together a path that might help lead us to the cause,"

207 posted on 02/02/2003 10:16:06 PM PST by Jael
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To: #3Fan
Not to be argumentive but I don't belive that.

Then what about my post are you disagreeing with.

208 posted on 02/02/2003 10:17:27 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jael
He said they were going to look at them; he didn't say the guy was correct.
209 posted on 02/02/2003 10:18:23 PM PST by Howlin
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To: A Citizen Reporter
You seem to like to dodge the obvious "speculation" that you have stated. "TILES FALLING OVER CALIFORNIA" That's what you said.

How have I dodged it? I speculate that the astronomer was trustworthy due to the fact that NASA is studying his pictures. I speculate that these "flares" he saw were tiles coming off due to the fact that NASA's telemetry shows increased drag and increased heat in the left wing over California. It's my guess that tiles must've been damaged to cause this increased drag and heat.

210 posted on 02/02/2003 10:18:53 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I will tell the two or three of you are wasting your time. The problem isn't us discussing what we think happened, the problem is as I tried to get started last night.

There is a giant attack that is going to come against NASA and President Bush. It started Saturday over seas and Monday its going to break loose here.

As Fred Mertz will say You all were warned and attacked the messager instead of the message.


211 posted on 02/02/2003 10:20:21 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Jael
I've watched TV today and seen quite a few clips. I've seen the one where it does indeed look like a snowball, and where it goes under the wing and sprays. And then from another angle it has a slight orange color, and it also sprays. I am beginning to think that the nature of the foam (it was spray on) would of allowed it to do that. :-)

If it was orange, then it was foam most likely. We'll have to see if was a brittle kind of foam.

212 posted on 02/02/2003 10:20:53 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: Howlin
He said they appear to show a trail of debris. (Dittemore)
213 posted on 02/02/2003 10:22:55 PM PST by Jael
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To: Howlin
I don't have to answer to you. Your a nothing!
214 posted on 02/02/2003 10:23:02 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Howlin
Then what about my post are you disagreeing with.

That a few tiles coming off would've caused almost immediate disentegration. Rather I believe that a few tiles coming off would've cause a burn-through and would taken a few minutes.

215 posted on 02/02/2003 10:24:16 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: Jael
I haven't seen Dittemore making any statements about tiles falling. But I'll continue to watch and wait.......
216 posted on 02/02/2003 10:24:29 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: #3Fan
That a few tiles coming off would've caused almost immediate disentegration.

I never said that.

217 posted on 02/02/2003 10:24:54 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
There were rumblings of something dire for years. Critics of NASA have been trying to get the attention of someone in power, to convince them of mistakes, corner cutting, and plain ol poor judgement. After the last disaster to overtake the shuttle missions, more money was thrown at the program, no one was fired, and it seems nothing has been learned.
218 posted on 02/02/2003 10:24:57 PM PST by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
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To: Howlin
I think it is a fact that the shuttle was hit by a ufo...Its crowded up there
219 posted on 02/02/2003 10:25:40 PM PST by woofie (old age aint for sissies)
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To: TLBSHOW
Can't back it up, can you?

And at least I can spell.

220 posted on 02/02/2003 10:25:44 PM PST by Howlin
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