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To: SandfleaCSC
For all the folks who advocate getting a shotgun and killing the coyotes that way: doing this gives you a moment of satisfaction, but it can't really affect the numbers of coyotes. Some studies have shown that if coyotes are killed off the survivors just breed more to replace the dead ones. They're so well-adapted to suburban living that their numbers grow. Trapping isn't successful for the same reason. The only thing that really works on them, as another poster indicated, is a pack of sighthounds, but even the sighthounds are not going to reduce the overall coyote population.

Coyotes in the neighborhood wouldn't be an entirely bad thing if they really helped control the deer population. But in general they don't. They prefer smaller, easier game, like cats, small dogs, rabbits, squirrels, little rodents, etc. Deer are too much work.

I don't know what the solution is. I don't like them eating my family cat, which they did a few years back, and I don't like them occupying an ecological niche once very nicely filled by foxes. It's a puzzlement. But it doesn't have anything to do with liberal politics. Human policies haven't so far had much influence on coyote numbers, no matter what was tried. Often you have liberal yuppie scum moving into a suburban neighborhood and then fruitlessly demanding that local authorities devise a way to keep the little puffball dogs safe. And there is no way, shotguns or no shotguns, traps or no traps. The moral of the story is: keep your little dogs and your kitties INDOORS unless you want them to be coyote snacks.

116 posted on 02/02/2003 9:21:38 PM PST by Capriole (Yes, I'm pro-choice. My choice is a Browning Hi-Power 9 mm.)
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To: Capriole; All
Who can post a real photo of a coyote.

I live in rural central Oregon Coast and never see anything but the two does if I am outside around midnight and telling my Labs to hush. Well coming home one night a grey pointed nose with pointed ears crossed in front of my van so what was that. I know it was not a dog. He held his head down I thought it may be a fox but it was grey, It was not as big as a wolf or have that beautiful face of a wolf. It was smaller than my labs.

Another question when we are get to get out and travel I travel from 2am to 8 over the mountain ranges. How come I never see wild animals?

Only once a family of raccoons crossed in front of me and my son saw the last one stop and stare and just busted up laughing then I said oh oh and then thump. I still talk about that story with him and that was years ago.

Can somebody tell me if there are grey foxes?

I read of areas where bears are out of contol here on the coast but out here where I live nothing. I had the Forrest Ranger come and talk to my son about bears and that they have never been sighted out in our area (we live in the hills of the coast range). My son has a fear of bears afraid he will be attacked while sun bathing if not behind the fencing around our home.(he is a quad. so cannot run) Also we live on the Yaquina Bay just 4mi inland so I cannot figure out why I never see anything wandering around. Neighbors say my dogs scare everything off.

BTW sorry Kathie lee that dog was more loyal to you than that dog of a husband ever was. Should dump the husband and get more dogs.
124 posted on 02/02/2003 9:53:43 PM PST by oceanperch
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To: Capriole
Coyotes understand FEAR!.

If every time you see a coyote, you shoot it dead, the other coyotes in the area WILL learn not to enter your "zone". That is what kept them away from us in the past, and works everywhere it is tried.

Stay away or die. Simple, yet quite effective.

133 posted on 02/02/2003 11:40:44 PM PST by Don W (Lead, follow, or get outta the way!)
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To: Capriole
Some studies have shown that if coyotes are killed off the survivors just breed more to replace the dead ones.

NOt if there aren't any left.

171 posted on 02/03/2003 8:37:29 AM PST by Terriergal ("DU is the biggest source of HATESPEECH on the internet today")
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To: Capriole
Coyotes in the neighborhood wouldn't be an entirely bad thing if they really helped control the deer population. But in general they don't. They prefer smaller, easier game, like cats, small dogs, rabbits, squirrels, little rodents, etc. Deer are too much work.

Special bowhunts for deer in populated areas works pretty well too. But we have the bleeding hearts standing in the way. Boo hoo! I'd rather watch them starve and buy my meat at the store where I don't have to deal with the reality of death!

172 posted on 02/03/2003 8:40:04 AM PST by Terriergal ("DU is the biggest source of HATESPEECH on the internet today")
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