[eddie willers]

Obviously there is some sort of disconnect here.

Obviously.

I am not talking about corrupt governments (that's another topic) but the about the document that outlines ours.

Make your case that "not infringed" is the same as "completely unfettered".

[tpaine]

jonascord;
Obviously there is some sort of disconnect here.


Obviously.
I am not talking about corrupt governments (that's another topic) but the about the document that outlines ours.
Make your case that "not infringed" is the same as "completely unfettered".
56 -ew-

Make yours that there is some penumbra in the commerce clause that allows the '68 GCA to infringe upon the clear words of the 2nd.

[jonascord]

Until 1934, "shall not be infringed" meant the same as "unfettered". That's when, in case you've forgotten, our first Socialist President decided to disarm the revolutionaries who were at that time literally camped on his doorstep. See the "Bonus Army" for further data.

The "Taking guns from criminals" was so much smoke and misdirection. Bonnie and Clyde stole BAR machine guns from a NG armory, because they never made enough robbing banks and grocery stores to buy them over the counter. At least Capone bought his from a dealer, (he could afford it, what with dealing illegal drugs and all. That could open a WOD rant, but I'm tired.)

Corrupt government only started to affect the population when Democrats, "for their own good" , started to do a clog dance on the Bill of Rights. They've been at it ever since. The Republicans do it to, but they really lack a true enthusiasm for it. The are still wisps of guilt floating around the GOP.

[jonascord]

And, by the way, are Marines crazy? If uncivilized behavior and violent expectations are your criteria for insanity, an 18 year old Marine is about as close as you can get in this country. If a Drill Sergeant told a boot to back a bus over a baby, somewhere around Week 6, that boot wouldn't blink an eye or take a deep breath.

Back in the mid 90's, at MCB 29 Palms, a Navy head candler, to support his doctoral thesis, polled the enlisted Marines on base to find out whether they would be willing to go house-to-house, in the US, confiscating guns, if ordered to. They said yes. The poll results were pleasing to clinton, and the naval shrink ran for cover, and got Riffed, while the Pentagon frantically tried to spin it as "one man's opinion."

The Gun Grabbers are out There, waiting. They don't quit, They don't give up.