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To: HankReardon
This is a nation governed by the "rule of law", and not, as often repeated with deliberate attempts to mislead, a nation governed by the "will of the people."

Glad you got all that out of your system. Unfortunately, it would take a revolution to repair all that is wrong with the American political system.

The paradox is in the details:

Lobbying is freedom of speech. Lobbying is undue influence of laws.

Taxes are required to fund a government. The government decides how to tax.

People are so adjusted to governmental oversight of their pocketbooks and their actions they are immune to the effect is has on them.

2 posted on 02/02/2003 8:00:43 AM PST by Glenn
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To: Glenn
We'll keep doing battle though right? We will not give into defeatism brought on by our cynical feelings, of course not!
ONWARD!
4 posted on 02/02/2003 8:08:42 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: Glenn
I disagree with you.

I think a little education in the economics of taxations could be very effective and should at least be tried before a depression or hyper-inflation or revolution takes place. Some of the stuff flying around the internet is instructive...have you got the story of the 10 men who met regularly for dinner and paid the tab according to the progressive tax system?

Similar metaphors could be written and distributed based on the "Laffer Curve" - that theory is that if the low earners pay a small enough pecentage of their earnings in taxes, and the high earners pay a large enough percentage, at a certain income level the high earner nets the same as the low earner - hence no incentive to become a high earner - hence no high earners - hence no high tax-payers - hense severely curtailed revenues - hence government bankruptcy or hyper-inflation, you guess which.

A very important point to make to the "tax the hell out of the rich crowd" is that the catastrophic failure of this scheme will not take place in "a few thousand years" like "Global Warming" it could take place within one single Congress...2 years.

8 posted on 02/02/2003 8:28:18 AM PST by Positive
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To: Glenn
Taxes are required to fund a government. The government decides how to tax.

The government also has taken it upon it's self to be the distributor of wealth.  Failed and retained social programs are bleeding the taxpayers of this country.  This is not a legitimate function of government.

The polls taken on taxation are from the people who pay no taxes.  Like they will say tax us more.
The poor have been bribed with money from the public treasury.  This should not be a function of government.  But the politicians have found a way to buy votes.  The government is elected by the people and the poor as a block have voted themselves a paycheck, signed by the politicians.

The rule of law has become a joke, Governments and government agencies are saying it doesn't apply to us.  We have so many laws now that nobody can know them all.  They were badly constructed and are designed for one purpose, to keep government in charge.



Can you say asset forfeiture?

  These laws are written so that nameless and faceless committees can write regulations defacing the freedoms of the people.  These regulations are LAW.  Many of these regulations work on a presumption of guilt and due process is out the door.

Think not -- look at the tax code.

The government is loath to cut programs that they expanded because then its time to confess to overspending and insane programs.  They created a dependant constituency dependent on tax money.  Rather than admit their misdeeds their solution is easy raise taxes on the people making the most money.  They have the fewest votes.

Californians will be leaving -- Grey Davis has seen to that.
 .3% of the population of California pays 37.6% of the taxes in that state. Now Governor Davis wants to raise taxes on the people who are actually paying taxes, and many of them are leaving.  The lunch story is about to visit California.
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23 posted on 02/02/2003 10:49:06 AM PST by longun45 (The chickens are coming home to roost, as it were.)
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