Debris Photos (GRAPHIC)

Yahoo News photos ^ | 2/2/03 | freepers

[kcvl]

I suppose the photographer didn't want people thinking the "hicks" had a barn that wasn't painted? I HAVE NO IDEA! lol! I don't know how many barns are painted in most places but around her they don't waste the time.

[Erasmus]

The photo on the left is earlier and the radioactivity hasn't died down yet.

[cubreporter]

yes, very strong likeness.

[XBob]

"This is nonsense and an insult to Americans. Do we need America haters on FreeRepublic?"

"No, we do not need America haters on FreeRepublic. Generally when we realize that someone is one, Jim will remove their account. We'll take your warning about the other poster under advisement. Thanks, AM"

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[XBob]

Sorry Mark - I meant to address this to you.

"This is nonsense and an insult to Americans. Do we need America haters on FreeRepublic?"

"No, we do not need America haters on FreeRepublic. Generally when we realize that someone is one, Jim will remove their account. We'll take your warning about the other poster under advisement. Thanks, AM"

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Please advise all America Haters to report to LibertyPost.com, one of their home sites, full of America Haters. And full of FR haters too.

[mathluv]

Not every body has to wait for the Feds to give them permision to do something. Many things can and will and should be done at the local levels.

[Lady Jag]

Same barn, different light, maybe different camera, film, different time, or digital enhancement. The blue barn is cooler due to one or more of these factors.

[swheats]

Possibly the aluminum tin siding that was used on the barn reflecting from the light at that time of day.

Just an idea.

[cubreporter]

I agree. I see absolutely nothing wrong at all about this thread. I would not like to see remains of any kind but for me, the shuttle debris is part of the story. How come the TV/news stations are showing it and as far as I know, there are not complaints? Why cant FR show the same thing and discuss it with other Freepers? At least we get the chance to do this on this forum...we have NO VOICE on the networks. Keep up the good work and if there is a thread I cannot view I will not go into it. Simple as that. Everyone has a choice. But...so far this is just fine with me.

[lepton]

It looks like a giant ball of string.

It looks like a spherical metal tank (helium or fuel component) covered with insulation that has frayed badly.

[lepton]

Every tile is numbered, and if they started to peel off, they might be able to work their way backwards.

That is why I would think they would take a photo and gps reading for every piece they find. Location has a notable part in figuring out what happened.

[Erasmus]

At 207,000 feet you still have little in the way of aerodynamic control, even at 12 000 MPH. So you could get into a 90 degree yaw, or sideslip, as the video seems to show.

I would think that if the reaction control system was still functional they might have been able to correct the attitude; but things may have happened too quickly, and the craft may already have been aerodynamically compromised (e.g., from the purported damage during launch).

And of course, your ship is not designed to take the friction heating in that attitude so it's likely to have a structural failure pretty quickly.

That's what appears to have happened.

[lepton]

"Manuevering rocket malfunction?
Software "glitch"/Hacking?
Pilot error? (Was re-entry automtated?)
What other causes might there be?"

Main causes I can see are: 1) loss of integrity of heat-shielding. An amazing amount of air rubs over the shuttle each second during re-entry, under high pressures. When pressure increases, so does temperature...even before the molecules start rubbing against the surface of the shuttle. If a large enough area becomes open to the heat, it can melt the shuttle hull, or even incandesce objects on the other side of the hull.

Communications is lost for a portion of re-entry, because the friction is so great that the atmosphere, and portions of the shuttle skin are ionized (i.e. electrons gain enough energy that they leave orbit around the nucleus).

2) Loss of structural integrity. The shuttle is under a great deal of stress. If significant components shift they can cause instability, or if they come off, they alter the aerodynamics of the craft as well as stripping the craft of some of its heat shielding.

3) The shuttle became unstable. The shuttle must come in in a very specific configuration, otherwise it can begin to wobble, or spin, or slow down too fast. If the shuttle wobbles out of parameters, it can place immense stresses on the craft in ways that it was not, and could not be, designed for. If the shuttle slows down too fast, it heats up too fast.

While there is some fuel in the shuttle during re-entry, it is a rather small quantity, the re-entry being non-powered. The shuttle is designed to slow down by a series of banking maneuvers gradually increasing the drag and extending the flight distance while within the atmosphere.

There may be other things, but those are what first come to mind. Obviously, all three happened, the question is which caused the others to happen.

[mathluv]

Thank you.

[don-o]

You truly are a disgusting individual.

Don't know how long you have been around here; but fyi, this thread runs because the FreeperNation comprises thousands of folks of multi expertise.

Any one of whom might see something is a pic that raises a question or supposition that might prove helpful.

[EggsAckley]

Launched on the 16th.

16 days in orbit, too.

[lonestar]

Bronson is in Sabine County, not Galveston. Difference of about 150 miles.

[chnsmok]

From news conference on now...Over CA and NV...noticed drag on left side (from missing tiles?) computer correcting by banking? right

[lepton]

Don't know how long you have been around here; but fyi, this thread runs because the FreeperNation comprises thousands of folks of multi expertise.

Some of them are actually rocket scientists (I know of four myself), and others knowledgeable enthusiasts.

Actually, there is a list somewhere of many FReepers occupations.

[Cloud William]

Why is THIS barn BLUE?

It's not blue, it's just the unpainted galvanized steel showing up better in one picture than in another. Most likely a camera exposure setting at work here - check out the peak of the barn roof - it's "blue" too. The grass looks different, too.