Debris Photos (GRAPHIC)

Yahoo News photos ^ | 2/2/03 | freepers

[ZinGirl]

I have one more thing we can do.......Pray for the familes

you are absolutely right....excellent addition to my thoughts.

I truly admire the people who have made the effort to put flags and flowers at debris sites, as well as those who took flowers to the space centers in Houston and Florida.

With that kind of strength, and with prayer, the families and the nation will heal and come back stronger.

[nmh]

Reveling in debris found - another new low at FR.

You: I dare you to point to ONE POST that did that.

That's what this thread is all about! Pick a post.

I simply can't equate honoring these fine people with posting debris. To properly honor these people is not to venerate the debris but to talk about the PEOPLE. Share photos or biographical information about the people who perished. POsting debris is not honoring these people. It's sick.

[Dan Day]

Phew... that's a large piece of debris. I can't tell from the angle of the picture, but it looks like it could be part of a bearing or gimbal used to steer the OMS engines or the SSMEs (Space Shuttle Main Engines).

Bearings aren't nearly that big. It looks more like a fuel tank or other sort of tank for liquid, like the ones labeled "RCS fuel tank" or "Oxidizer tank" in this diagram (throughout the shuttle, they seem to have preferred spherical tanks for liquids):

[nmh]

If someone I loved was killed in a car accident and nothing to speak of remained of that loved one, would I collect car debris and savor that? Hell NO! I'd be spending time with loved ones, talking about the PERSON and depedning on where I was in the grief process, I might be looking at photos. This is the NORMAL way to honor a deceased person - NOT getting off on car debris from the accident or in this situation shuttle debris. WAKE UP! Have some respect for the PEOPLE killed instead of shuttle parts.

[amom]

Regarding your questions on research,
NASA has this page
http://spaceresearch.nasa.gov/sts-107/

"...The 80-plus experiments aboard Space Shuttle mission STS-107 represent the latest application of microgravity as a fundamental, versatile tool to gain insights in space and improve life on Earth as well as enable future space exploration...STS-107 is a Shuttle mission dedicated to research investigating human physiology, fire suppression, and other areas of research relevant to people across the globe..."


and here is a link to the experiment fact sheet page http://spaceresearch.nasa.gov/sts-107/factsheets.html

far too many links to put here.


I hope this helps.

[ZinGirl]

look....everybody has their own way of coping....obviously we don't have a problem with looking at photos of something that is being shared by our whole country...even the world. Personally, I find it comforting that people care enough to place a flower for a stranger.

You feel differently...and that's fine...please just visit another thread and stop judging us who are grieving in our own way.

[Otta B Sleepin]

It is moving to see all of the respect being paid to what is left of the shuttle. The flags, the flowers, and the people watching over each little piece makes me know that we are a nation of compassion...

It's somehow comforting and encouraging to see, isn't it?

[steve86]

Thank you very much for your contribution.

Although you didn't have it bolded, I noticed the phrase

"even with a band of iron and brass"

(doesn't say aluminum, titanium, and copper, but close enough for government work.)

Thanks again.

[Admin Moderator]

Your attention please.

This thread has generated a ton of abuse reports. Some have been from long established freepers. Others have been from relative newbies. Some have been complaining about the thread. Others have been complaining about the complainers.

Throw on top of it the fact that some of the newbies who showed up on this thread happen to be returning bannees, who before being banned were friendly with some of the very people they are bickering with here, and something is striking us as just not right.

If you are interested in the debris photos, this is the thread for it. If not, don't join in this thread. It is not disrespectful to those who died to post pictures of the debris in our opinion. What they show and where they landed may help piece together what killed these brave people.

If you feel that is the wrong decision, we apologize and mean no harm. But please, no more arguing about it on the thread, and no more abuse reports on the matter.

Thanks, AM

[Lady Jag]

Is the thread locked or not? I came back to find "locked, preparing message" (for the locking reason, I guess). Then I refreshed it to get back to your first post and it is unlocked? I guess so.

[Pyro7480]

Now that the thread is unlocked, I can comment here too. Someone on another thread (if you know how and on what thread, please respond and post a link) commented on the high intelligence of FReepers and that some are near-genuises. This discussion just goes to show how true that statement is. :-)

[Lady Jag]

Thank you very much. Well said.

[virgil]

I think I see on the video where the ice hits the top edge of the wing...and then something falls straight down under the wing, its very faint like you say, then comes the spray. Good eye Mark

[Lady Jag]

Al Chauvin sits on his porch in front of a piece of suspected shuttle debris in Rusk, Texas. Photo: AFP

[Miss Marple]

If someone I loved were killed in a car wreck, and I didn't know why, I would be comforted that people were assembling clues and keeping records. I would be pleased that bystanders were guarding the wreckage until the police arrived.

No one is venerating the wreckage in lieu of the people who lost their lives. The bystanders who leave flowers at wreckage sites are simply trying to express respect.

Please try and look at things from this point of view. Thank you.

[Lady Jag]

A piece of what is believed to be a piece of the US shuttle Columbia lies in the middle of a pasture near San Augustine, Texas. Photo: AFP

[virgil]

I think some people cope with tragic accidents by trying to understand what happened. They may be even able to help keep this from happening again. It takes away some of the feelings of helplessness. Its therapeutic for these people and its normal. Humor us please.

[SFConservative]

Re the video sequence supposedly showing the vehicle flying sideways:

I have seen that video several times on Fox News and it seems to me that several seconds into the sequence the image becomes much sharper and smaller, suggesting that the camera finally focuses properly. The high symmetry and fuzziness of the initial image also suggests improper focusing. In addition, my aerospace engineering background leads me to expect that the vehicle would be torn apart well before it could reach and hold a 90 degree pitch orientation at that speed.

[virgil]

It looks like a giant ball of string.

[jokar]

Bump to track.