[Joe Hadenuf]

The screed is close to incoherent, and has almost no nexus to anything to do with economic reality or theory. It has echoes of a dead German philosopher who wrote books in England of massive malignant influence that have since been totally discredited.

Huh? You mean most of us are just imagining all of this down turning and lower standard of living?

[Torie]

Read the whole thread and get back to me. I think I addressed all of this in some detail.

[Porterville]

Lower standard of living?? Yesterday I drank a bottle of wine from france (with a small "f") ate pesto from Monterey, bought $100 of dollars worth of close for $60 bucks, and $100 pair for $30. I eat sleep and drink like a king and I don't make much money. America has obese epidemic and an unemployment rate of %6. If this is not the land of milk and honey what is??? If you can't make the doe learn a trade, try truck driving it pays 40-50 grand a year, or stucco or masonry or build furniture or roofing, or fishing or real estate or finance or medical supplies salesman or go get your law degree or teaching degree. What planet are you from???? Grow up and get to work!!!