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ANDREW SULLIVAN: Come on in: the Anglosphere is freedom’s new home
The Sunday Times ^ | February 2, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 02/01/2003 3:48:37 PM PST by MadIvan

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To: MadIvan
Great piece.......

And I have to agree about the French. Gravity does funny things to their military weapons.

22 posted on 02/01/2003 9:06:13 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (God Bless the arsenal of liberty..............the time is now.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Ping
23 posted on 02/01/2003 9:17:57 PM PST by MrNatural
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To: MadIvan
Hardly. "Accidents of history" is a literary atrocity committed on our ancestors, but of course this comes from a member from the cult of death known as Liberalism.
24 posted on 02/01/2003 9:40:49 PM PST by junta
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To: MadIvan
UNITED FREE NATIONS bump!
25 posted on 02/01/2003 10:12:23 PM PST by tictoc
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To: MadIvan
"National sovereignty is a freedom as well — one that free countries are reluctant to give up without some tangible gain. So this concept will never yield something like the EU, an institution that can only make sense to a Gallic or German mind that sees the chaotic liberty of a diverse Europe in need of false coherence and discipline."

So why, then, is Tony Blair's UK so anxious to join the EU?

I have never understood why Britains would even consider joining an organization so dedicated to blotting out national identity and sovereignty.

26 posted on 02/01/2003 10:22:51 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: okie01
Gun control in Britain is nearly total, so Sullivan's Anglospheric definition of "individualism, and the elevation of freedom to the first rank of political and cultural values" doesn't really apply to them (right now). Take away the individual God-given right to self defense, and freedom is just an empty word. Hopefully one day (soon) the Brits will demand their rights back.
27 posted on 02/01/2003 11:49:46 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: MadIvan
A toast:

To "the unity of the English speaking people"(!), to quote a phrase from the great Sir Winston Churchill.

28 posted on 02/02/2003 12:07:07 AM PST by FReethesheeples
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To: MadIvan
The article does little except restate a desire to bring back the British Empire. It's so childish, some people can never wake up and realize it's 2003.

Even 60 years after that Supreme Honorary American, Churchill, transferred the British Empire (and most else too) to the US, there still remains a large body of fossils and adolescents, who won't allow themselves to believe it, either for fear of sinking into oblivion or for fear of growing up.

29 posted on 02/02/2003 12:16:51 AM PST by Ichabod Walrus (I wonder if somebody will clean up the garbage in 2003?)
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To: Ichabod Walrus
Boy, it just isn't a day without you bashing the British. OK, you hate the English. Thanks, genius. You done yet?

Ivan

30 posted on 02/02/2003 12:37:17 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Ichabod Walrus
The article does little except restate a desire to bring back the British Empire. It's so childish, some people can never wake up and realize it's 2003.

Not true, unless you equate the Brit Empire with freedom and a way of government, which is the point of the article. If anything, it is an American Empire, but even that does not fit the premise of the article. Your comment does not track with the article at all, but obviously you have another agenda.

31 posted on 02/02/2003 3:47:36 AM PST by KeyWest
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To: MadIvan
Don't take such nonsense serious. The US and the Brits are together because of our values, and empire isn't on the table or agenda.
32 posted on 02/02/2003 5:05:37 AM PST by elhombrelibre (ein pils bitte)
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To: MadIvan
Wha kind of crazed fantasies do these unimaginative Brit Empire II lunatics take to bed with them?

Perhaps they dream of a huge tide from the North Sea severing the Chunnel and throwing Britannia, like the Mayflower, across the Atlantic to dock somewhere off the coast of Maine?

Or maybe they dream of an Anglo-American revolution in the US, where the former insurrectionists see the light; acknowledge the errors of their forefathers, and write a new Constitution to become part of Greater Canada?

Such are the beer-soaked fantasies of grade school failures who can be regularly seen on the terraces of English soccer stadia, and the writer of the above article wants to persuade his readers to take them seriously?

The fact is England is already part of the Anglosphere - insofar as it is nothing more than a US satellite off the coast of Europe. At present, England is a floating aircraft carrier; a base for surveillance and espionage operations such as Echelon, as well as a proxy by which to create political discord in the EU - if not destroy the Union altogether.

All of which is exactly what that First American, Winston Churchill, wanted England to be.

33 posted on 02/02/2003 12:25:09 PM PST by Ichabod Walrus (I wonder if somebody will clean up the garbage in 2003?)
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