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To: TLBSHOW
Bush wanted money for nasa when he ran for president.
He has NOT had a majority in both houses of congress til three weeks ago.
His administration was touting a potential mission to mars and nuclear rockets, a week and a half ago to get more money for nasa...
http://www.nuclearspace.com/a_stafford.htm
How much sooner could we get funding through the congress?

For that matter, we HAD to fly the shuttle mission as this was the #5 satellite in the critical military high tech satellite constellation we needed for Iraq. this was a MUST DO mission... or so I HEARD.

We had to fly it. We don't have the backing of congress... and as a result SEVEN died. Perhaps that satellite was worth thousands of lives. Perhaps they took pictures while they were up there.

In any case YOU cannot blame bush.

we might find out that the tiles were intentionally contaminated by espionage at the last inspections...

We KNOW it was NOT shot down... but you can bet if the commies have penetrated los alamos... they could have gotten a janitor into JSC or Edwards with a can of spray contaminant, disguised as windex...

I don' think THAT kind of sabotage can be ruled out yet.
And if it WAS discovered to be that kind of sabotage, we would never admit it... but the chinese would lose another satellite or two of their own... probably in proximity to beijing.

Who knows? I know it was not bush's fault and that he has wanted more money for space exploration and perhaps militarization since before the election of 2000... I believe the article written about the concept was by a guy named Joel Achenbach.

It was discussed here back in 2000
238 posted on 02/02/2003 12:56:03 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (clintonsgotusbytheballs?)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
The Stafford Commission and Nuclear Propulsion

by Rick L. Sterling

The SEI program was announced by President George H. W. Bush on July 20,1989 at a speech he gave at The National Air & Space Museum. The President's plan called for the completion of Space Station Freedom, the construction of a lunar base & a manned expedition to Mars. Later the President called for detailed studies about how to achieve these fascinating goals. One of these research groups (The Stafford Commission) requested that the general public submit proposals for lunar & Mars exploration.

I had been interested in nuclear rockets since I first read about them in science fiction novels as a child. I knew that The Rover Nuclear Rocket Program was started by Senator Clinton P. Anderson in 1960. It had tested nuclear rockets such as Kiwi & Phoebus for many years with much success. In addition, President Kennedy had called for its accelerated development in the same speech that he proposed the moon landing (May 25,1961). Finally, Dr. Wernher Von Braun had proposed the use of NERVA for a manned Mars expedition to the Space Task Group in 1969. Thus, I knew it had a rich history in the US. I wondered if given the President's speech, the time was now right to revisit the issue of nuclear propulsion systems.

A nuclear rocket's primary advantage over chemical powered rockets was the fact that they could generate many times more specific impulse (ISP). Specific impulse is similar to miles per gallon in automobiles in that it is a measure of the efficiency of the fuel. Greater specific impulse means less travel time to Mars & thus more protection for the astronauts from the effects of microgravity (bone loss, muscle loss, etc.). If the US Government were seriously interested in manned interplanetary travel, it would have to consider nuclear propulsion.

NERVA Reactor RocketGiven these facts, I decided to submit a research paper that stressed the advantages of nuclear power over chemical propulsion. My paper emphasized the NERVA (Nuclear Thermal Rocket) but also discussed other types of nuclear rockets (Nuclear Electric, Gas-Core Nuclear Rockets & even Nuclear Fusion Systems). I discussed not only the technical aspects of nuclear propulsion systems but other issues such as international cooperation in the development of space nuclear propulsion (Russian development of nuclear electric rockets & joint funding), the positive effect that its development would have on our country's young people (Manned interplanetary travel & NERVA, etc. would increase their motivation to study math, physics & space science) & the economic & commercial consequences of manned interplanetary travel that utilized nuclear propulsion systems. I took about two weeks to research & write my paper. I sent it to The Stafford Commission in June,1990, but I really didn't think they would support my proposals. I was to be pleasantly surprised. The Commission adopted just about everything I had recommended in my paper. Regarding NERVA system The Stafford Commission stated. "Based on experience gained in this program and the Space Exploration Initiative requirements, nuclear thermal rockets, with further development, are the choice propulsion technology for the interplanetary phase of a Mars Mission." (America At The Threshold-America's Space Exploration Initiative - Page 66). In addition regarding my proposal to use the NERVA system & the SEI concept as an academic motivator for our country's young people, The Commission stated, "The Space exploration Initiative will rejuvenate interest in science & engineering & The Space Exploration Initiative will motivate and inspire the new generations on which our future as a nation depends." (America At The Threshold-America's Space Exploration Initiative-Pages 12-13) For the next decade nothing was done about Nuclear Rockets.

Then a few months ago President Bush proposed his Nuclear Systems Initiative. This program will cost almost a billion dollars over the next five years & will include the development of nuclear electric rockets. I had discussed nuclear electric rockets in my 1990 research paper, and I knew they could produce a specific impulse 10 times that of chemical rockets. With this type of program President George W. Bush was laying the groundwork for many of the manned interplanetary missions of the early 21st century. It's been a long time coming.

Bush has been trying to get money for quite a while now... even before he got the majority installed in Congress...

239 posted on 02/02/2003 1:03:28 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (clintonsgotusbytheballs?)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I DON'T blame the President.......


but thanks for the post and links!

240 posted on 02/02/2003 1:03:57 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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