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Shuttle Contact LOST-No Tracking Data During RE-Entry!
Nasa TV | 02/01/03 | GRRRR

Posted on 02/01/2003 6:16:05 AM PST by GRRRRR

Shuttle has NOT been heard from or seen on tracking radar since 0800Hrs CDT. No contact at Merrit Island tracking station, no voice comm...DEVELOPING.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: astronauts; columbia; columbiatragedy; disaster; du; feb12003; ilanramon; india; israel; nasa; ramon; revoltingevilduers; shuttle; space; spaceshuttle; sts107; unitedstates
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To: kcvl
I lam sure this has been answered, but just in case - St. Augustine County is right on the border with Louisiana - due east of Nacogdoches. A lot of the debris is being found in Nac.
2,221 posted on 02/01/2003 12:38:01 PM PST by mathluv
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To: snopercod; joanie-f
I do not expect the Space Shuttle flights to be stopped; rather, the current information will be used for the meanwhile, to establish the useful life-cycle of the airframe. I would not have any fear of flying one right now; and I would not let the U.S.S. Iowa-effect take hold.

Yet much hay is there to be made, and surely the Democrats will lampoon any mission undertaken soon, because it would be "a sign of wreckless abandon by the administration ... blah ... blah ... blah."

I would launch the next mission on schedule; and when it lands successfully, there will be cheering.

It's something we need right now; get back on the horse.

Unless ignorance has set in too well in the shop where the structure is supposed to be finessed instead of finessing the look of gay people, the look of the dis-enfranchised people, the look of political officers, and such Clintonistas about whom their feelings are more important than meticulous attention to mechanical and electrical details.

Meaning that Los Alamos is not a fluke; it just happens to be a more outspoken case revealing "the new paradigm" of being lost in extra-Constitutional space.

If the Democrats can see a way to let blood, they will ... they'll make this event a harbinger to strike a blow against Yankee Ingenuity, to "capitalize" on the chance to raise evermore doubts about, "Are we doing the right thing?"

At first, there will respective "shock;" but then, you watch, the campus minons of socialism will begin to oppose the scientific - military - industrial complex and its imposition "out there" as an attack upon "nature."

In short, "the left" will make this to be "symbolic" of our being rash.

It's "risky."

Boo!

Well, you know it is; and I know it is; and we've gone and done it anyway.

Because we dare to crawl out of the cave, or from the cave, or away from the cave ... that is the cavern which "the left" is always trying to steer the people into.

At the airlines, when that commuter plane was lost in your neck of the woods, the tech.'s "turned to" in greater attention; that is always the reaction. And it's true in the military.

But N.A.S.A. is the air wing of the Congress, as you know, and all direction, save the rash Yankee Ingenuity of men and women of the likes that you are, is inadvertently arrived at by reaction to committee flatulence, in a manner of speaking --- you are expected to read the vapors and do the politically correct thing.

That is often times juxtaposed with the mechanically correct thing.

I once wrote up a report on a little 19 cent "O"-ring which cost me my job but kept a piece of important hardware functioning; I was fired, "let go" for other "economic reasons" very early in 1980's.

The technology was everything, and it had to work. While everybody's politics, sex, religion, and esteem only registered in public.

I was fired for political reasons, however, "office politics;" and though I had a "get out of jail free card," and I was invited to use it, I declined because I'd rather try something new.

I could have nice and cosy inside the "gubmint contract" job, but I preferred to go where the action is.

I did the right thing, about that "O"-ring; and I did the right thing to go and not look back; because I struggle to maintain a standard, or improve it.

God knows that I'm a wreck at times, but I cannot see the point in making political, what is scientific.

There is truth to be found in the technical problem, and the scientific approach most rewarding for the faithful who work to solve things and make 'em work well.

People will fuss over "He said, she said, they said ... " because that is easier, when trying to get ahead in the bureaucratic mindset; but it is not for me.

I tend to stick with making things work, and the "interpersonal dynamic" I want to see, is the smiles on the surrounding faces, when they see both the why it works, as well as the relief, the victory.

The leader of such a shop knows the pride of workmanship and values it above all the other prides which "Goeth before the fall."

Unfortunately, that value was destroyed by Bill and Hillary Clinton, and I cannot tell you what remains of it to have now at our time of need.

2,222 posted on 02/01/2003 12:39:01 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: The South Park Republican; Liebenator; dep
The Miami Herald Challenger article was by freeper dep, who posted a link to it a gazillion posts back. He was nominated for a Pulitzer prize.
2,223 posted on 02/01/2003 12:40:29 PM PST by lodwick
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To: Bob
Heck, I thought that everybody knew that Pert is about midway between Brushy Creek and Todd City, and a bit northwest of Neches.>>>>>>>>

Maybe, only everyone in Anderson county.......
2,224 posted on 02/01/2003 12:42:17 PM PST by txdoda
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To: Samurai_Jack
Thanks for the pics.
2,225 posted on 02/01/2003 12:42:36 PM PST by lodwick
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To: First_Salute
I've been saying this since almost from the time the shuttle program started: the shuttle is a dog. We need something better, more efficient, more elegant.
2,226 posted on 02/01/2003 12:46:26 PM PST by virgil
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To: Bob
by Bob (Actually, I cheated and used Yahoo maps to find it.)>>>>>>>>

Just noticed this.......
I'm impressed, I didn't think Pert, Tx was on a map.
2,227 posted on 02/01/2003 12:46:44 PM PST by txdoda
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To: Admin Moderator
This thread is nearly dead all of a sudden. Can we please add it to frontpagenews or extended or breaking?
2,228 posted on 02/01/2003 12:47:22 PM PST by Timesink (I offered her a ring, she gave me the finger)
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To: All
To whomever is interested...Here is the final comment on the DUhhh thread we've been discussing here...

:http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID60/32783.html#96

It's from the owner of the site...It simply says:

"This thread has gone on long enough.

It's in very bad taste.

I'm locking, before we lose the shred of credibility we have left."



If proving that the OWNER of DemocraticUnderground even thinks they have very little credibility is not worthy of posting on Free Republic, I dont know what is...

2,229 posted on 02/01/2003 12:48:09 PM PST by The South Park Republican
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To: txdoda
I'm impressed, I didn't think Pert, Tx was on a map.

Yep, it sure is. Yahoo maps are usually pretty good at finding just about any place that you might need to find.

2,230 posted on 02/01/2003 12:49:26 PM PST by Bob
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To: virgil
Perfection is pursuit of the good.

Seems to be an epidemic of this these days.
Very very "PC"...

2,231 posted on 02/01/2003 12:50:42 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Timesink
To: Admin Moderator This thread is nearly dead all of a sudden. Can we please add it to frontpagenews or extended or breaking? 2228 posted on 02/01/2003 3:47 PM EST by Timesink (I offered her a ring, she gave me the finger) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2226 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

Could be that at this length, the size of the thread is too much for all but cable modems and need to be re-threaded with a thread 2. Does anyone know how to do that?

2,232 posted on 02/01/2003 12:53:28 PM PST by OReilly
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To: anniegetyourgun
There's already speculation as to the cause (damage to the wing during launch).

This would have made a really stupid terrorist attack. Sure, it gets international coverage, but it's seven lives and one shuttle. That's a far cry from the billions of dollars of damage done to a metropolitian city and the thousands killed in the WTC disaster followed by the massive impact in the national economy. A far more psychologically devastating attack could have been managed with significantly less expense.

Heck, making the shuttle explode on the launch pad would have been easier, and it would have done more damage. This is a tragic accident, not an act of malice.
2,233 posted on 02/01/2003 12:53:43 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: The South Park Republican
I flipped over to DU and was met with a post from one of them saying Bush would use this tragedy for his own advantage, blame Clinton for it. Every other word out of his "mouth" was the "F" word. I did not see a single other member of DU chastise him for those sick comments.

There lies the difference between freepers and du'ers. When a poster here goes overboard, they are jumped on even before an administrator can be called in.

While Freepers were sending out our heartfelt messages to God and the families of those lost today, DU'ers spent their time slamming us, our President, Republicans and God.

Forget them, in the greater scheme of things, they have no credibility, no tact, no caring, no respect and certainly no love for this country.

2,234 posted on 02/01/2003 12:54:32 PM PST by Brytani
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To: lodwick; dep
Can you re-link/repost that article?
2,235 posted on 02/01/2003 12:54:35 PM PST by Liebenator
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To: Bob
I'm impressed, I didn't think Pert, Tx was on a map.
Yep, it sure is.>>>>>>

If your ever traveling TX 155, don't plan on stopping in
Pert, unless you know someone....there is nothing there, except 3/4 houses, and a sign that says Pert.
2,236 posted on 02/01/2003 12:54:53 PM PST by txdoda
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To: Movemout; bonesmccoy; All
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't the shuttle supposed to circle in the direction of the earth's rotation? And isn't the target landing spot some place in California? But they were reentering over Texas? I think there's something I'm not quite understanding.
2,237 posted on 02/01/2003 12:55:39 PM PST by inquest
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To: OReilly
Could be that at this length, the size of the thread is too much for all but cable modems and need to be re-threaded with a thread 2. Does anyone know how to do that?

Don't you have your preferences set to only display 50 posts at a time?

2,238 posted on 02/01/2003 12:55:55 PM PST by Timesink (I offered her a ring, she gave me the finger)
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To: Timesink; Admin Moderator
It used to be in Breaking News??? Where is it now? I had to go to "My Comments" to find it again???
2,239 posted on 02/01/2003 12:56:09 PM PST by The South Park Republican
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To: inquest
No, they were going to land in Florida today, as happens semiregularly.
2,240 posted on 02/01/2003 12:56:33 PM PST by Timesink (I offered her a ring, she gave me the finger)
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