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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Did you catch Larry King last night, Saturday, when he had on a pilot who watched the shuttle fly overheard from out west somewhere? He insisted that he and some other pilots who witnessed the fly-over all believed the shuttle was flying much lower than 200,000'.

Both the telemetry from the shuttle and the ground-based radar would have noticed if the shuttle were off its glidepath. No one from NASA has mentioned that when they gave the list of anomalous readings or indications, so...

Plus, if they were only 16 minutes to touchdown, wouldn't they be much lower in the sky prior to landing?

The shuttle "flies like a brick", and has a very steep glidepath. It drops pretty fast while flying in for a landing, so 16 minutes from touchdown it'd still be pretty darn high.

And it's been reported they were going 12,500 mph over Dallas, due to land in 16 minutes. But it's only about 1,200 miles from Dallas to KSC. At that rate of speed, they'd be landing in seven or eight minutes. So were they going too fast at that point, "out of control," or has the speed been misreported?

That sounds about right -- remember, they're at 12,500mph at that point, but *decelerating* rapidly. Yes, they'd overfly KSC in 8 minutes if they didn't slow down at all, but they *are* slowing down.

In fact, doing the math in my head, I believe that for a constant deceleration from speed X to zero over a given time period, you'll travel half as far as you would have in the same time if you didn't decelerate, so yeah, 8 minutes to KSC at 12,500 should work out to exactly 16 minutes to KSC if you're smoothly decelerating so that you're at "zero" speed on touchdown.

Also, given they had already entered the atmosphere around 5:45 am, as you, Leadpenny reported, they must have been flying lower to result in any intact body parts being recovered. Especially given that the debris was generally found directly beneath the flight path.

How do you figure that?

251 posted on 02/03/2003 12:58:50 AM PST by Dan Day
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Dan Day
NASA TV reported that they had entered the Earth's atomsphere, I assume, around 8:45.

As for eyewitnesses thinking it was lower than what was being reported, it's the first I've heard of that.

The Shuttle always seems too high and fast but that "flying brick" effect seems to give it the right profile. Also, I believe they had decided on RWY 33 just before all went wrong. The plan was to do a right 270, which would have killed off a lot of speed and altitude.
252 posted on 02/03/2003 1:18:55 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Dan Day
no one from NASA has mentioned...

There's probably lots NASA hasn't mentioned.

Did you hear the pilots on Larry King?

How do you figure that?

What? That body parts wouldn't be "intact" after supposedly falling 230,000'? That's 45 miles up...post explosion.

253 posted on 02/03/2003 1:21:23 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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