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Oregon Libertarian Party helps defeat $725 million tax increase
libertarian party ^ | 1/31/03 | libertarian party

Posted on 01/31/2003 6:56:38 PM PST by freepatriot32

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The Oregon Republican Party never took a formal stand on the measure.

Why the hell not ?

1 posted on 01/31/2003 6:56:38 PM PST by freepatriot32
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To: freepatriot32
Because the Oregon Republican Party leadership is a bunch of Country Club RINO's.

The Hatrack and Packrat legacy is still very strong, especially on the wet side of the state.

2 posted on 01/31/2003 7:04:03 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: freepatriot32
Didn't want to be on the same side of an issue as those insane Libertarians, who take the Founding Fathers literally.
3 posted on 01/31/2003 7:05:59 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: freepatriot32
The Libertarian Party taking credit for the result is a bit rich.
4 posted on 01/31/2003 7:06:09 PM PST by Torie
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For the same reason the GOP says nothing about the current admin. spending money like a drunken sailor I guess.

OR

Maybe the Oregon RP was just taking its leeds from the Texas RP who seem to be in a race to see who can raise what tax/fee the most.
5 posted on 01/31/2003 7:06:35 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD))
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Why? The GOP would not state a position on the issue.

"The Oregon Republican Party never took a formal stand on the measure."
6 posted on 01/31/2003 7:07:49 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD))
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I don't think most voters care what the Libertarian Party thinks. And voters don't need GOP leaders to instruct them when it comes to tax increases. They are perfectly capable to decide the merits on their own.
7 posted on 01/31/2003 7:09:13 PM PST by Torie
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Of course, the mighty dope smoker party is taking credit. Why, without their vast horde of stoners, the referendum might have only been defeated 46% to 54%.
8 posted on 01/31/2003 7:09:46 PM PST by LenS
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I don't think most voters care what the Libertarian Party thinks. And voters don't need GOP leaders to instruct them when it comes to tax increases. They are perfectly capable to decide the merits on their own.

Yeah, I think that the libertarian party is taking a little more credit here than it is due. Yes, they fought the tax increase. Yes, the party supporters and membership spoke out against the tax. But so did many other non-libertarian voters. So, yes, the party helped, but it wasn't the deciding force. Common sense was.

9 posted on 01/31/2003 7:17:04 PM PST by meyer
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Of course, the mighty dope smoker party is taking credit. Why, without their vast horde of stoners, the referendum might have only been defeated 46% to 54%.

Eight posts and someone already is pulling out the "dope card"?

10 posted on 01/31/2003 7:18:16 PM PST by meyer
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To: Valpal1
Politicians: they're all a bunch of limousine liberals, Cadillac conservatives and silk stocking socialists.
11 posted on 01/31/2003 7:19:45 PM PST by BrucefromMtVernon
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Had it passed, the initiative would have raised taxes by $725 million over three years.

If one is to believe the flame wars, I would presuppose that Libertarians took an alternative stand on the tax hike; pledged commitment to raising that amount of money by "adding a surcharge" on all pot sold *for one year*.    </sarcasm off >    FReegards!
12 posted on 01/31/2003 7:20:31 PM PST by GirlShortstop
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You forget that quite a few of the GOP 'leaders' are OK with tax increases. Just look at Texas and the mad race in the GOP to see who can sugget the most taxes/fees to raise/apply to new things. One can also look to DC to see that spending reductions are not important to the GOP any more.
13 posted on 01/31/2003 7:22:38 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD))
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To: freepatriot32
Does this mean another state in the union will have to learn to live within budget?
14 posted on 01/31/2003 7:24:48 PM PST by AD from SpringBay
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No kidding. What a joke.
15 posted on 01/31/2003 7:28:03 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: AD from SpringBay
Why? The national goverment isn't even trying to live within a budget, why should the states?
16 posted on 01/31/2003 7:30:11 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD))
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Oregon LP had launched a vigorous "Turn The Tide" campaign, visiting 27 cities and towns in 17 days to offer arguments against the tax hike.

Notice they don't mention any dollars spent. I didn't see a single add by them in paper, TV, etc. They are taking credit when it's not deserved.

17 posted on 01/31/2003 7:31:56 PM PST by aimhigh
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Temporary...bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-haaaaaaaaa! Temporary...he-he-he-heeeeeeee. Riiiight...three years or less they'd be pushing for a continuation of the tax and demonize those "tax cuts for the rich" for trying to cut those "vital" programs.

45% fiscally irresponsible yahoos still with their collective heads up their asses.

$114 less for those vital services, in which they'd have to squawk to the government for more services. "Wa-wa-wa I need 'free' toddler care."

Cowards.

A.K.A., the usual suspects with their sob stories and scare tactics.

Gasp! Puke! Big whoop!

Give us more money or we'll release these prisoners. What a puke!

Yada yada yada.

18 posted on 01/31/2003 7:36:08 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Torie
They put their money where their mouth is and helped pay for the ad campain and held "town meetings" to rebut the crap the papers and OPB and other media where spewing.

You couldn't get squat from the ORP (and I'm a precinct comittee rep in OR).

It was Repub leadership in the legislature that sent this turkey to the voters because they didn't have the cajones to fight against the dems over it.

This last election may stiffen their spines a little, (God, I hope, please!!!!)
19 posted on 01/31/2003 7:38:00 PM PST by Valpal1
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The national goverment isn't even trying to live within a budget, why should the states?

Just wishful thinking, I guess.
20 posted on 01/31/2003 7:40:50 PM PST by AD from SpringBay
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