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Not at all. At 45 I thought you were running away from trying to get meaningful numbers, even though you had commented that the original post was "fact based" when you thought those man-chimp numbers were in your favor. I understood your sudden reluctance to acknowledge the value of mathematical models as the result of your foresight that taken to their reasonable conclusion, the numbers don't support the evolution of man.

A couple of posts later you said I had misread you on that, and I took you at your word.

I hope you are not going to the position that I presumably mistakenly attributed to you back on #44. If the post does represent a "fact based" study, then number estimates on man-chimp genomes are fair game.

I am trying to take these numbers to their logical conclusion, practically begging any and all of you to present your models as I have mine. Rather than attempt to refute my numbers based on fact- which you cannot do since I have used your own numbers at every step of the process, I see a desire to move away from any attempts at measurement. Is that "science"?

I hope I am "misreading" you again. You don't expect us to accept the "science without numbers" mind-set that resists any attempt at quantification?

That can't be your position. It is not a rational one. It is PURE FAITH beyond that of my position that God made man. I am offering mathematical models to support my contentions, whilst I have been offered nothing in return but hypotheticals that are to be accepted on faith.

If my models are flawed, point out the flaws- I have been very reasonable throughout this entire thread about accepting numbers from your side. Don't just side-step the whole issue of quantifying the probability of the evolutionary hypothesis, offer your model in return.