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To: beavus
Wow, Beavus, you're over my head ...What is it that distinguishes humans from cats so that humans have rights but cats do not? If an alien landed on this planet and travelled amongst its creatures and rocks, how would he know which of them had rights? Could it be that we are the ultimate predatory species on Earth? If so, should we preying upon our own members for sustaining lives? Implicit in your questions there appears to be the notion of 'why are we any better than the rest of the animals and plants on Earth?' I will leave that to the ethicists and philosophers to answer on their level. But I will offer, humanity has the axiom that we are above the rest of the species on Earth, yet, if we stoop to preying upon our own species members, we will be more like the other species than we will be different from them. To my mind, that represents a degeneracy from our recent advance.
242 posted on 02/03/2003 7:25:53 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Could it be that we are the ultimate predatory species on Earth?

So did tyrannosaurus have rights? On the savannah do lions have rights? If so, what would it have meant to violate the rights of these creatures?

Implicit in your questions there appears to be the notion of 'why are we any better than the rest of the animals and plants on Earth?'

By saying "better", you seem to be saying that the notion of rights is ultimately a value statement. So, rights requires the ability to form values? Make judgements? How then could mere predation be sufficient?

humanity has the axiom that we are above the rest of the species on Earth

What do you mean by above? Do you mean that humans value humans over all other species? As a matter of survivability, one might argue that bacteria, or insects would have the more hardy species.

if we stoop to preying upon our own species members, we will be more like the other species

So the characteristic that makes humans unique from other species is that humans (potentially) don't kill members of their own species? What about oak trees? Do they kill their own?

I'm not convinced we know what we are talking about when we use the word "rights". I wonder the same about the word "human".

257 posted on 02/04/2003 3:42:08 AM PST by beavus
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