[PFKEY]

I think we are pretty much in agreement on this.

The notion of designer individuals is a bit much for me to take and I suspect I would not take part in such a thing.

I don't image a clone would be anything other than a 'biological' replica.

A person is transformed into individual by their experiences and such so my clone might be subject to the same weaknesses as I am in that we might both die of heart failure but we will be individuals because our experiences are different.

[MHGinTN]

The issues center on the denial that the earliest expression of the life brought into existence at fecundation is an individual human being at age 'start' (or, with identical twins, individuals). The scientists doing the cloning know an individual human life starts at conception, but they obfuscate that in order to fog the issue. It began with the in vitro fertilization debates, but the voices of 'life' were squelched. I fear the same squelching is sliding us into tacit acceptance for the cannibalism of embryonic stem cell and therapeutic cloning research.