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To: Cvengr
Not only have you failed to explain, you have failed to justify your statements and in this particular case exhibit a predetermined desire to promote false statements. Your statements speak volumes to your lack of faith, lack of knowledge and desire to decieve.

I'm a bad person :(
[sniff]

But seriously, all unwarranted personal attacks aside, I'm sorry you're unhappy with my explanations, to date - I'll try to do better, if you specify exactly which statements are not supported to the degree you would like to see. It's true that we're all fallable, myself included. We might even go so far as to take a person we don't know anything about and judge them, misinterpret their intentions, label them as ignorant, or imply malice where there is none. Usually, the problem is simply a miscommunication; people don't always see things the same way. That doesn't make for bad people, though, and doing such things never helps us to find common ground in a debate, thus I'm loathe to do so. Of course, we all fail at that sometimes. This is a regrettable situation indeed, but then, nobody's perfect...

Now, riddle me this:

Who wrote and edited the Bible?

DFS

317 posted on 02/02/2003 9:59:20 PM PST by DFSchmidt
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To: everyone
OK, an interesting take on things, relevant to the discussions we're having here - Check it out, if you're so inclined:

http://www.christinyou.net/pages/createvol.html

Also, these links provide good background information, regarding the variety of points of view on evolution and Creation:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_world1.htm

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_world2.htm

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_world3.htm

Finally, this one addresses all points of view on Biblical inerrancy:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/inerrant.htm

I don't agree with everything that is said in all of these pages, and you won't either :) But it's definitely an interesting read, because it shows that there exist a great variety of views on the subject - It's not simply "us vs. them".

DFS

318 posted on 02/02/2003 10:17:48 PM PST by DFSchmidt
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To: DFSchmidt
Who wrote and edited the Bible?

God.

John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word; and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

324 posted on 02/03/2003 4:50:35 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: DFSchmidt
DFS,...don't get me wrong,...I'm not some fruitcake who ignores reason merely to satisfy an arrogant belief as many who study science might interpret those who are devout.

My immediate frustration is based upon observing how much people will erode Scriptural positions in order to avoid awkward arguments or conclusions.

The more I study Scripture and then observe life, body, soul, spirit, heart, and mind, the more I realize that so much of Scripture has simply been laid bare, before the entire world to read, believe and follow,...and yet to some extent, if one doesn't have it,...they never get it while they remain in their own system of belief.

Interestingly, it's sort of like Lazurus and the dead man seeking to have Lazerus returned to warn the rich man's brothers about the Torments. Abraham simply responded that if his brothers wouldn't listen to the Prophets or in our case even to the Crucifiction and Ressurection,...they won't listen to other arguments.

My frustratin is with those who rush to metaphor to explain away an awkward situation when there are far many more situations where we are scarred and misinterpret literal Scripture in more complicated cases,...yet by placing faith in Him, He brings us to maturity in time by His plan.
332 posted on 02/03/2003 5:56:24 PM PST by Cvengr
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