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To: DFSchmidt
The "good" doctor is demanding belief in a religion - one that proports to be science. Serious scientific minds disagree with his assessment of "the faith", but he demands adherence nonetheless.

I think my criteria is a better measure...and to answer your question, the applicant would need to show how his religious belief values human life and would act as his philosophical foundation in serving life and the preservation and respecting thereof.

Why would you think that someone who believed only in prayer to heal would seek to be a medical doctor? That question is either facetious or simply argumentative...and therefore not demanding of a response.
313 posted on 02/02/2003 8:43:28 PM PST by GilesB
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To: GilesB
Dude, I can call you if you want to speed this discussion up ;) But seriously:

The "good" doctor is demanding belief in a religion - one that proports to be science. Serious scientific minds disagree with his assessment of "the faith", but he demands adherence nonetheless.

I took a look back at his third criterion to refresh my memory - It's here:

If you set up an appointment to discuss the writing of a letter of recommendation, I will ask you: "How do you think the human species originated?" If you cannot truthfully and forthrightly affirm a scientific answer to this question, then you should not seek my recommendation for admittance to further education in the biomedical sciences.

Now, I'm going to ignore the rest of the text he has on why he asks it, because it doesn't matter why - What we are talking about right now is what he is asking.

He asks the student to "truthfully and forthrightly affirm a scientific answer to this question."

I don't see anything in that question, as stated, stating that he requires the students to "have faith" or "believe in" evolution. I see him asking for a scientific answer to the origins of man. What scientific answer shall we give him? What are our choices?

In short, because of the phrasing of the question, religion doesn't enter into it, in any form. Science is not about faith or belief, it's about the best theory to fit the observations, and that's what he asks for.

I think my criteria is a better measure...and to answer your question, the applicant would need to show how his religious belief values human life and would act as his philosophical foundation in serving life and the preservation and respecting thereof.

OK, so that's your criterion, explicitly stated - I'll go with that. Would it be sufficient to show that the applicant's belief system, religious or not, values life?

Why would you think that someone who believed only in prayer to heal would seek to be a medical doctor?

This has nothing to do with what I think. Previously, you said this:

I would hesitate to recommend someone for medical school that didn't have an understanding and belief in religion.

This implies that you believe that an understanding and belief "in religion" would make someone a better candidate for medical school, in general.

I simply took this belief of yours to its logical conclusion. Since you haven't yet limited "religion" to mean a particular religion, there was no way I could logically conclude that you would automatically exclude Christian Scientists from your rules, for instance. My point was to show that we cannot make such a blanket statement, across religions, and claim to have the "better criterion". That, in turn, implies that we must apply your logic only to certain religions, which would then be discrimination based on religion - Also problematic.

That question is either facetious or simply argumentative...and therefore not demanding of a response.

As you can see, it was neither - I am simply showing the possible consequences of your own reasoning.

I'm sorry that you felt offended by this, however! This was never my intention, and I do apologize for making you feel that way.

With that said, it may interest you to know that Harvard Medical School is associated with an entire institute devoted to examining the relationship between spirituality and healing (see here). It seems to me, therefore, that perhaps there are cases where a Christian Scientist would want to go to medical school, though perhaps not to become a medical doctor. Since your criterion relates to admissions to medical school, however, regardless of career goals, this seems relevant.

At any rate, don't worry too much about this, there's no need for us to get totally sidetracked. I'd definitely like to hear your thoughts on the questions I ask above.

Thanks for reading,

DFS

316 posted on 02/02/2003 9:44:14 PM PST by DFSchmidt
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