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To: ContentiousObjector
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If Creationists were to come forward with a rock bed with both prehistoric and modern fossils we would probably listen to you.

But until you ditch the crackpot arguments like trying to prove humans and dinosaurs co-existed based on cave drawings or harping the garbage that was discredited more than 100 years and pointing us to charlatans with inkjet PhD's you clowns can count on being ignored. How can you expected to be taken seriously when what you are essentially doing is holding up a green crayon and insisting it is purple.

What reaction exactly were you expecting?

If all of humanity were constrained by the complete disregard for science that plagues most religious fundamentalists the entire world would look like Taliban Afghanistan, we would be squatting in the bushes, hunting animals with pointed sticks and we would probably still have half the population being killed every few years by the plague or starvation

If one looks at history the one thing that has always been a barrier to progress is religious fundamentalists. The only thing fundamentalists of any flavor have ever contributed to humanity is violence, ignorance and chaos. When it comes to science over the last 500 years I am sorry to report you fundamentalists don’t have a very good track record – infact your batting average remains 0.0

Lets look at the most contentious issue of the 16th Century. The configuration of the solar system. You see this godless liberal by the name of Copernicus kinda noticed that the planets Venus and Mercury seemed to disappear behind the sun for long periods of time and that meant that the solar system was orbiting the sun and not earth.

Well when a godless liberals professor who taught at Oxford by the name Bruno Giordano advanced Copernicus’s theory further you fundies were pretty pissed off about it. I mean how dare the guy point out the painfully obvious. What do you think Mercury and Venus were doing back there?

Well, he got burned at the stake for that and the fundies rejoiced. And even after Galileo discovered Io, Europa, Ganymede and Calisto orbiting Jupiter offering further proof not everything orbited the sun, the fundies again went insane and tried to get Galileo killed – unfortunately the evil godless scientist was spared. By the godless liberals of the catholic church

Fortunately for Darwin by the time he was walking the earth much of civilization had gloriously left the 16th Century and when Darwin made his theory public the fundies had their usually anti-science temper tantrum, however they couldn’t get him killed.

Now, when Darwin made his theory known there were a lot of blanks in the evidence that had to be filled in, and like Jupiter’s moons discovered by Galileo. No amount of evidence will convince the fundies.

You were wrong on the solar system and your wrong on evolution too, you charlatans have no credibility on which to launch your anti-science campaign, because throughout history on every single occasion you have been wrong.

No one is going to take you seriously when you are going against the fossil record and DNA and the entire disciplines of biology, geology and chemistry with cave drawings and 4000 year old biblical parables

246 posted on 02/01/2003 2:14:10 AM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: ContentiousObjector
"You fundies," you write, collectively convicting those skeptical of Darwinism in the 21st century of being the equivalents of those that burned Giordano at the stake for his theories about the solar system. You may want to get your nose out of 16th century history books and pick up a newspaper sometime -- John Scopes lost the trial but won the "war." I doubt you will find any news about the Michael Dinis of the world fearing an inquisition.

Are we to believe that intellectual honesty comes from someone prone to such broad, reckless, and overdramatic generalizations?

249 posted on 02/01/2003 2:37:37 AM PST by L.N. Smithee ("OK, everybody! Look Polish!" -- T. Servo)
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To: ContentiousObjector
I have yet to have found one rigorous, sound, mathematical argument to show that any dating method can prove these things might not have only been created less than 10000 yrs ago.

I understand the arguments presented regarding carbon dating, half-life assumptions, and fossil lineage, but not once have I ever seen nor even observed a rigorous attempt to show systemically how it is not possible for the same justifications might not be functionals over time, whereby an absolute dating method is non-gauged, not normalized, and at best a mere sequencing.

Such a fundamental basis begs an explanation and rigourous justification. It is the 'evolutionist' who makes the incredible leap of faith to disregard institutions, which at least indicate otherwise. The 'evolutionist' bears the burden of proof.

This absence of even a well formed theory simply displays gross ignorance on the behalf of "evolutionists". The article well articulates one consistent trait of 'evolutionists'.....namely an incredible intellectual arrogance which journeys to ignore truth and logic, all the while claiming authority over institutions of belief.

The professor states he will only write recommendations for those who have been 'invited' to attend his seminar,...yet in the same policy recognizes he lacks the ability to know all persons who attend his classes of 500+ students and even refuses to acknowledge those with surpassing grades inthose classes. Would it be any surprise at all if the same professor would refuse association with any person based upon any prejudice?

The policy merely assasinates the character of its author. All medical schools would be well advised to use any recommendation from this professor as ample justification to reject ANY applicant from future competition and screening.

As for clinical use of 'evolution', I'd far rather MDs would have advanced knowledge in biochemistry, chemistry, mathematics, logic, and anatomy than infatuation with 'evolution' and pseudo-statistics.
257 posted on 02/01/2003 5:00:38 AM PST by Cvengr
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