[Dark Knight]

I do appreciate the biologists that exposed them. But how many fake skulls were accepted as proof? Burnt once twice shy, right? Bird studies proved speciation. All shown later to be false but initially approved via lazy science.

If people are skeptical, maybe evolutionists should start by looking in their own house for the reason. There's enough skeletons rattling in there.

DK

[Dan Day]

I do appreciate the biologists that exposed them. But how many fake skulls were accepted as proof?

One in 200 years, and people started raising red flags from the start.

Burnt once twice shy, right?

Correct.

Bird studies proved speciation. All shown later to be false but initially approved via lazy science.

Excuse me?? Documentation, please.

If people are skeptical, maybe evolutionists should start by looking in their own house for the reason.

Hardly -- the actual number of major errors or frauds in evolutionary science is incredibly small, and is absolutely dwarfed by the number of *false* accusations made against it by creationists.

"If people are skeptical", the creationists bear the vast burden of responsibility -- they see it as their full-time *job* to cast doubt on evolution and those who study it, often by any means available including outright falsehoods.

For just one flavor of example, creationists are inordinately fond of misquoting so that they can dishonestly "support" their arguments. For example:

From Quotations and Misquotations: Why What Antievolutionists Quote is Not Valid Evidence Against Evolution :

Online resources documenting antievolutionist misquotations

The Fossil Hominid FAQ of The Talk.Origins Archive has several pages on creationist misquotations on human evolution:

• Creationist Arguments: Misquotes (Many specific examples are provided.)
• Duane Gish quote about ER 1470
• Creationist Arguments: The Monkey Quote
• Rear view of Sinanthropus

Here are some other pages of The Talk.Origins Archive that are about creationist misquotes:

• The Revised Quote Book: Looking at how Creationists Quote Evolutionists
• Patterson Misquoted: A Tale of Two 'Cites'
• Clarence Darrow: Misquoted by Creationists
• Missing Supernova Remnants as Evidence of a Young Universe?: A Case of Fabrication

The following articles from The Talk.Origins Archive that that, in part, address creationist misquotations:

• Lucy's Knee Joint: A Case Study in Creationists' Willingness to Admit their Errors
• Creationist Whoppers
• Geochronology kata John Woodmorappe
• Supernovae, Supernova Remnants and Young Earth Creationism FAQs
• Thrust Faults
• 29 Evidences for Macroevolution: A Response to Ashby Camp's "Critique"

Here are some pages on the web that address creationist misquotations:

• Hiding the Numbers to Defame Radiometric Dating: A Few Examples of the Many Misused References in Woodmorappe (1999)
• More Classic Misquotations in Woodmorappe (1999)
• Chopping a Title Hides the Truth
• Quote-Mining...The Tradition Continues - ICR Representative Frank Sherwin Visits Eureka College
• Creationist Misquotations
• Quotes About Evolution
• Gee Responds to Discovery Institute Use of Quotations
• Discovery Institute Quotes Clark Out of Context
• Gilbert Rebukes Discovery Institute for Use of Quote
• Coyne Exposes Discovery Institute's "old tricks"
• Doubting Darwinism through Creative License
• Intelligent Design Bibliography Misleading
• Misquotations in the Creation Book
• George Gaylord Simpson Said There Are No Transitional Fossils?
• Tom Kemp Said that the Mammal-like Reptiles Are Not Transitions Between Mammals and Reptiles?
• "Dawn Horse" Is a Good "Ancestor" For Rhinos Discredits Horse Evolution?
• Simpson Rejected the Transformation From "Dawn Horse" to Modern Horse?
• Niles Eldredge Says that the Geologic Column is Circular Reasoning?
• D.M.S. Watson Admitted Evolutionists Dogmatically Rejected Creation?
• Creation Science is Garbage (This article has an example of a creationist citing a negative review as if it were an endorsement.)
• Criticism of moth study no challenge to evolution
• Charges of fraud misleading
• Famous Quotes found in books
• Just what DO they say Dr. Morris?
• Does Dr Jonathan Sarfati Have Any Integrity?
• Creationist "Out of Context" Quotes
• Creation Book: a critical analysis
• Re: Disowing Darwin
• Ted Holden's "intermediate fossil" quotes from Walter ReMine's "Biotic Message"
• Another Creationist Misquote (News report in Science two decades ago screwed-up and the creationists continue the error.)
• Lie Ho! Lie Ho! It's off to the quote mine we go...
• Michael Ruse on the misuse of his religion comments

A searchable archive on creationist quotes can be found at Antievolution Quotes and Misquotes: The Archive.

[Dan Day]

But how many fake skulls were accepted as proof?

Would you care to hear how many frauds, fakes, and errors creationists have been caught using to "support" their arguments?

We could start with the "Paluxy man tracks", of course. Then our tour would move on to Duane Gish's false claims about a non-existent chicken protein. Then there's the mythical "90 foot plum tree with fruit" in a glacier. There would be a whole wing in the museum for creationist false claims of evolutionary fraud, including their numerous false accusations against Archeopteryx. Then there's Kent Hovind's false claim that no one has ever taken him up on his debate challenge. How about the whopper about the dust accumulation on the Moon? The "Polonium halos"? The specious "decay" of the Earth's magnetic field? "Flash frozen" mammoths? Woodmorappe's various errors about radiometric dating? Need I go on?

[Dimensio]

But how many fake skulls were accepted as proof?

Fakes are usually documented quite quickly, unless the 'finder' never submits his/her research for peer-review. Piltdowm man remained unrefuted for some time because no one was allowed to study it. Most biologists were quite skeptical, and it was quickly exposed once they finally got a crack at it.