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To: VadeRetro
It's interesting that you shoud point out how the Germans, who believed in a master race, killed so many Jews.

I wonder if you knew that it was foretold in Scripture? Note what the year would be if the verse and chapter numbers were transposed.

Psalms 44:19  Though thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons, and covered us with the shadow of death.

20  If we have forgotten the name of our God, or stretched out our hands to a strange god;

21  Shall not God search this out? for he knoweth the secrets of the heart.

22  Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.

23  Awake, why sleepest thou, O Lord? arise, cast us not off for ever.

24  Wherefore hidest thou thy face, and forgettest our affliction and our oppression?

25  For our soul is bowed down to the dust: our belly cleaveth unto the earth.

26  Arise for our help, and redeem us for thy mercies' sake.

YOu should read the end of the book. We win.
806 posted on 02/17/2003 8:12:05 AM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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To: Jael; whattajoke; Con X-Poser
"Past mistakes" you say? Why can't you bring yourself to say the word fraud? And some of your evolutionary frauds are not too far in the past. And still being used to prove the fairy tale!!!!

An honest Christian flabbergasted at the chicanery and charlantry of Christian archeologists:

I felt I should look at the evidence from Wyatt Archaeological Research (WAR). They sent me two videos and three books. One video was a two hour presentation entitled Discovered, Noah's Ark. The other video was entitled Presentation of Discoveries. [snip]

What I saw on the video and read in the small spiral-bound book made my jaws drop. I saw video clips and photographs of ancient sites and artifacts which just seemed unbelievable. This man, Ron Wyatt, believed he had verified the true discovery of Noah's Ark approximately 15 miles from the main peak of the Ararat Mountains, discovered the cities of Sodom and Gomorroh, revealed exact location of the Red Sea Crossing of Israel, showed in incredible video and photographs the original Mount Sinai, and to top it all off, he laid claim to having discovered the exact stake hole for the beam which held Jesus Christ.

The crowning achievement was the discovery of the lost Ark of the Covenant buried 20 feet below the crucifixion site. He claimed the Ark was sprinkled by the blood of Jesus Christ when his side was pierced and the earthquake opened a crack which opened the way for His blood to literally drop down onto the Mercy Seat of the Ark.

As I watched this video and read the book, I could hardly believe my eyes. If this was all true, why hasn't every television channel broadcasted these amazing discoveries. But then some of it has appeared on television. His work on Noah's ark was aired on the television program 20/20, the Today Show, Discovery Channel as well as others.

Wyatt's video on Noah's Ark was full of top quality scientists, archaeologists, government officials, and Hugh Downs and Barbara Walters, all seeming to acknowledge that this structure 15 miles south of the central peak of the Ararat Mountains was indeed, Noah's Ark.

I could hardly believe my eyes! But when watching Ron Wyatt make his presentation on the video, looking into his watery eyes as he described the blood of Christ sprinkling the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant, I couldn't call him a liar. He looked like one of the most humble, loving men I have ever seen.

This video of the Ark of the Covenant was filmed at a convention of a large world-wide Christian Women's organization. The Christian astronaut James Irwin seemed to be involved with the Noah's Ark video. The videos and books were full of names of prominent people in Christian, scientific and archaeological, circles.

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Every time I read about these Christian frauds, I become saddened, since I once was a true believer in Creationism. The first time I came across damning evidence against Creationism written by other Christians, I was appalled. I would never have considered such accusations if hurled by “wicked, atheist, secular” evolutionists.

Since then, I have found that my faith in Jesus has become stronger since I do not have to depend in pieces of bones to “prove” that a particular interpretation of the creation account must be true. As a matter of fact, whether Jesus used evolution or any other method to create our human bodies is completely irrelevat to my salvation.

813 posted on 02/17/2003 9:46:08 AM PST by LO_IQ
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