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To: VadeRetro
<< Now you're going to scream "Haeckel faked his drawings!" and everything I've just said will be understood to go away. If we're all stupid, that is. Nothing goes away. >>

Nothing? Not even Faker Haeckel, who faked not only his embryo drawings, but the non-existent "speechless ape", his skeletal drawings, and inspired Huxley to fake his monera drawings. Those don't go away either, though you sure tried to get past them as casually as possible.

If some embryos resemble others, so what? That's no different than grown animals resembling one another so far as proving evolution (it does nothing to prove evolution). I look like my brother, but he is not evolving into me (as much as he'd like to ;-)

All it shows is the Creator used a common design plan. If none of them looked alike, you'd complain that God was inefficient.

How come six month preemies aren't born some kind of ape, if they are undergoing the evolutionary stages during gestation? Six months is only 67% through the gestation, they shouldn't even be apes yet, *if* they are going through evolutionary stages. But they are born humans, every time. Your suggestion of embryonic recapitulation is absurd.
763 posted on 02/14/2003 11:04:51 PM PST by Con X-Poser
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To: Con X-Poser
So you're never exactly an ape and you're never exactly a fish. (But you do have structures that look a lot like gill slits.) Everything I said in 758 is still true. All you have is a "nothing means anything until I want it to" shrug.

Haeckelian recapitulation--what Haeckel attempted to propoose as a law of biology--is dead. But try a Yahoo! or a Google on "evolutionary developmental biology." It has a lot to do with why hatchling horshoe crabs are called "trilobite larvae."

And even if there were still trilobites somewhere, that wouldn't have made Young-Earth Creationism's problems with the geologic column go away.

As we've seen, however, probable in situ benthic fossils and fossil assemblages are hardly restricted to the Mesozoic. Instead, they occur in sediments attributed to all of the Phanerozoic systems.
Fossils and the Flood.

Flood geology theories popularized by young-earth creationists are nonbiblical doctrines. They are not demanded, or even suggested, by the text of Genesis...

As a scientific theory, flood geology is hopelessly at odds with the evidence. There is little concensus amongst flood geologists on basic questions such as Which processes have produced which deposits, Where are the boundaries between flood and pre/post flood strata, Why are fossil groups thus distributed in the geologic record, etc.

Evaluating the "Noah's Flood" Hypothesis.

Last but not least, Glenn Kuban responds to Bible.CA. Dinos and man coexisted all over the earth but only Carl Baugh and Don Patton can see it. Oh, yeah!

765 posted on 02/15/2003 7:43:44 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Con X-Poser; VadeRetro
My son was born at 29 weeks. Wish I knew how to post a picture to show how perfect he was!! No evolution going on there!!

And why did Heckel fake those drawings and was do school textbooks still use them?
784 posted on 02/16/2003 8:50:41 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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