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To: whattajoke
X: You have no standard to determine what a crime is

Joke: Say it with me slowly... "The Constitution. The laws of our country, my state, and my town." These laws determine what is considered a crime.

The Constitution is not a definition or list of crimes. The Constitution is primarily a document that limits the intrusive power of government.

By appealing to the Constitution, you walked right into some of the examples I gave. I can hardly believe you read this with both eyes open and responded with both hemispheres of your brain.

The Constitution guarantees me the right to keep and BEAR arms. It states that right shall not be inFRINGEd. A fringe is something marginal, periphery, or on the border. That would include such things as registration, magazine limits, semi-autos, permits, etc.

So why can't I legally buy an automatic Uzi today if I wanted? Why would that make me a criminal when the Constitution guarantees my right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed?

Also, do you know what a "standard" is? If what's legal and illegal changes faster than you change your underwear, that's hardly standard.

Not long ago abortion and homosexuality were crimes, now they are not. Well, are they right or wrong? Does your "standard" of morality change so drastically that these things are not *always* one or the other? You call that a standard for morality? Is it a crime to exercise free-speech and protest peacefully on public property near an abortion chamber? How did free-speech become a crime?

When Hillary gets into office and enacts the rest of her "child rights" program, and the age of consent is lowered - will that make what the Catholic priests are doing to their altar boys suddenly acceptable? Is what they've done right or wrong? How can you possibly say it's wrong now, but might be right in a few years? That's a "standard"?

If some future progressive Congress adds rape to the list of alternative orientations, and declares that it is a violation of their civil rights to inhibit their sexual-preference - will that suddenly make rape right and good?

Is your system of morality so unstable that you cannot know if murder, pedophilia, and rape are right or wrong each day without checking the Congressional Review and Supreme Court rulings each morning? (Not to mention gun rights or free speech).

If you bring the Bible into this, just remember, we are not the OT nation of Israel, which God gave some commands for specific purposes, that do not have universal application. The things you will mention, no doubt, are specific things God told specific people for a specific purpose. No doubt you will try to give them universal application. I would trust God's morality before I would trust yours.
756 posted on 02/14/2003 4:01:21 PM PST by Con X-Poser
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To: Con X-Poser; whattajoke
Great post, great points. What's the problem that these people can't see these obvious truths?
783 posted on 02/16/2003 8:41:25 PM PST by Jael (Thy Word is Truth!)
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