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To: nina0113
It's got to be truly dreadful service for me to leave less than 20%

As you go on to say, you CAN tell the difference between overworked and lazy. But when you leave a small tip for bad service, the server probably just writes you off as a low tipper and doesn't consider that the service was poor.

When we go out and the service is awful, I still leave the 20%, but I don't leave it with the bill or on the table. I find the manager of the establishment and leave the tip, along with my complaints.

And I always say "when he/she tells you later that we didn't leave a tip, you can tell them why". I have yet to get bad service a second time.

64 posted on 01/28/2003 12:28:52 PM PST by Cable225
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To: Cable225
As you go on to say, you CAN tell the difference between overworked and lazy.

Anyone who can count the number of waitstaff and the number of customers without removing his shoes can make that determination. My baseline is based on a reasonable expectation of what can be expected given the circumstances.

But when you leave a small tip for bad service, the server probably just writes you off as a low tipper and doesn't consider that the service was poor.

In almost every case that I've tipped below 15-20% (or not at all, in extreme cases), the cause has been abominably slow service (not caused by overcrowding, for which I make allowances). If the staffer can't make such an obvious connection, then spelling it out isn't likely to help.

67 posted on 01/28/2003 12:35:59 PM PST by steve-b
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To: Cable225
But when you leave a small tip for bad service, the server probably just writes you off as a low tipper and doesn't consider that the service was poor.

The one time in my middle-aged life that the service was truly bad, a nickel did my talking for me.

That way, (s)he can't mistake me for a low tipper OR (in the case of no tip at all) a forgetful or penny-pinching boob.

68 posted on 01/28/2003 12:51:00 PM PST by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a true capitalist!)
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