Why We Must Act Before It Is Too Late (IRAQ AND NORTH KOREA AND PANAMA CANAL)

newsmax ^ | Jan. 28, 2003 | Christopher Ruddy

[jlogajan]

Their first advice was that President Bush should move quickly to military secure the Panama Canal, over which China had been given operational control.

China has no such thing. They do not have a military presence there and they have no means to project one there. Good grief, they can't even project a credible threat against Taiwan.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

Another screwball, lunatic article about the Panama Canal from newsmax. If they are so ill informed about Panama, they must be ill informed about everything else they publish. CHINA HAS NEVER BEEN GIVEN OPERATIONAL CONTROL OF THE CANAL.

Once again from the top...It is TWO DOCKS this Chinese company is building and will operate for a while. Top management of the company is BRITISH and the workers are PANAMANIANS.

[Paulie]

You may say it's a 'screwball' article from NewsMax, but the basis of the article was two former senior commanders of the American military. It is Gen. John Singlaub and Adm. Thomas Moorer speaking, nobody else.

Are you in a position to be privy to more complete and accurate information than these two gentleman?

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

I live in the Republic of Panama (Panama City), as I have all my life, and know what is going on which is more than I can say about you and newsmax. And unfortunately, it is the gullible like you that believes this crap.

The last times Adm. Moore came through here (about three years ago) he could barely walk and think. He is very old.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

Gen. John Singlaub is also a disappointment. I wounder how many mistakes in judgement these two gentlemen made in their careers.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

Moore = Moorer

[Paulie]

"Soon after NewsMax’s interview with Moorer and Singlaub appeared, the Pentagon did indeed bolster the United States' naval presence in the Panama Canal, signing a new treaty with the Panamanians."

Well, since you know so much, can you verify what's stated above? Was there an increase in Naval presence at that time? If so, what were the true reasons for the buildup? Did the U.S. really sign a new treaty with the Panamanians? If so why and what was the nature of that treaty?

Thank you for educating the 'gullible' here in the States and clearing this up for me.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

1. The Pentagon cannot write or sign treaties with foreign countries. That's the U.S. Senate's job unless there are U.S. tax dollars involved; then the House of Representatives gets involved. So the answer to your question should be obvious.

2. There is no U.S. Naval presence in Panama. There is no longer a base for the navy to stay.

3. I'm bored with your ignorance.

[Paulie]

Maybe you should try thinking before you write. And answering the questions directly would help.

I never said the military signed any treaty, nor did the article. In fact I'm not saying anything from personal knowledge, only what the article is saying through an interview, and questioning why you dispute what veteran military officers are saying.

Simply living in Panama hardly gives you automatic credibility for what's going on there with regard to American national security issues. Also, if you truly did know what you were talking about, you wouldn't resort to name calling and demeaning statements.

[WatchNKorea]

"It is TWO DOCKS this Chinese company is building and will operate for a while."

And how many shipping containers could these 'buildings' house??? And tell us Mr Gatun, do you think any missiles or missile parts could be in said containers?

[To put it in simple layman terms Mr Gatun, do you think the COMMUNIST Chinese haven't thought about placing missiles and or missile parts in containers on the base or bases that these building are being constructed on?)

[WatchNKorea]

Chinese soldiers in the Panama Canal! LIVE Webcam! - Thread #5
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/552412/posts

[WatchNKorea]

Mr Gatun, seems like you didn't learn your lesson in our first go round in the above threads. Let's begin again. Yes huh?

[WatchNKorea]

Chinese Army Gets U.S. Missile Technology for Money
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/1/14/143258.shtml

[WatchNKorea]

Such a splendid Saturday afternoon for your lessons Mr Gatun (and jlogjan). Please accept this casual invitation to the 'Communist Chinese soldiers at the Panama Canal' thread shown in my #14. See you there, yes?

[WatchNKorea]

"The Koreans are well aware of our military weakness, and that is why they are now saber-rattling, trying to extort billions of dollars in aid, threatening war on the Korean peninsula, and even suggesting that they may use nuclear weapons."

I wonder if the Communist Chinese and North Korean leaders have given any thought to placing nuclear bombs in shipping containers (or assorted parts for such in several different containers)...and have such containers stored at their bases in Panama? Nah, surely they wouldn't think of doing that. Nah. [hence, no reason for Bush to force the COMMUNIST Chinese out of Panama....nah]????

[b4its2late]

I wrote this on a thread when N Korea started it's current nuclear threats......

I may be wrong, but IMHO, Red China is behind this. Reading BETRAYAL, by Bill Gertz, it seems logical to me that this might be part of Red Chinas strategy in its continuing build up for a war with the US, along with it agressive nuclear strategy which includes land based ICBMs, submarine based ICBMs and purchase of naval vessels to counter our aircraft carriers......

[jlogajan]

Am I correct jlogajan, you are a COMMUNIST Chinese sympathizer. Isn't this correct jlogajan?

Kook.