[hchutch]

Agreed.

But more is at play here. I think we're about to render the UN irrelevant. This is distasteful, but necessary.

[Grampa Dave]

We will need them to provide and monitor the peace keeping forces in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lybia and NK.

Otherwise they are irrelevant.

GW's chess game is in the process of making the UN, Nato, France/Germany/the Brussel Sprouts and a lot of past power players irrelevant.

Of course, Iraq, Iraq, Syria, Lybia and NK as we know them now, will be irrelevant by 2004.

GW has had two targets, the Axis of Evil and their chorus line screamers, the Axis of Whining Weasels since his SOU speech in 2002.