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To: On the Road to Serfdom
You just don't seem to get it. Spring traps are illegal because they can hurt an innocent person. Shooting a robber is a different issue.

And I don't think YOU get it. Let's stipulate that no innocent person can be harmed by the spring gun. Let's say we're in a country where all criminals speak chinese only, but innocent persons speak english. A sign outside in English warns about the spring trap. A chinese criminal goes into the empty building (trespassing, with criminal intent to steal). He is killed by the gun.

Legal? Moral? Permitted under Texas law? It IS a pure example of defense of property by lethal force.

Other examples offered by my detractors consistently blend self-defense into the scenario.

Well, is it moral? Is it permitted?

97 posted on 01/27/2003 10:55:54 AM PST by WL-law
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To: WL-law
Your stipulation is to such far fetched "fact" that it is pointless to speculate what the law would be. If no innocent person could be harmed by a spring gun, if the only people harmed were those intending to steal (and your racist example not being the reason), then yes Texas law would probably be different than it is now and spring traps would be legal.

Here is what you don’t get: Spring traps are not the only example of lethal defense of property and only property. Shooting a fleeing thief in the back is another example, one which is legal at night in Texas even if the only purpose is to prevent him from getting away with your property. It is legal. Is it moral? That is up to the individual. I would not do it, but I am glad it is legal and I am glad others are willing to do it since it creates a deterrence.

101 posted on 01/27/2003 11:13:33 AM PST by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: WL-law
Let's stipulate that no innocent person can be harmed by the spring gun.

The laws that exist in the real world are based on the circumstances of the real world. If we lived in a world where some sort of magical device can smite the guilty and spare the innocent with absolute reliability, the laws would be tailored accordingly.

111 posted on 01/27/2003 11:38:19 AM PST by steve-b
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