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To: WOSG
You are wrong. The US never gave money to bin laden nor al quaeda.

Yes,we did.

dont confuse our support for afghan rebels for support for non-afghan extremists. they are 2 different groups.

I think you are the one who is confused. Bin Laden and other radical Muslims were in Afhaginistan fighting against the Russians,and we gave them aid,support,equipment,and training,just like we did with the other groups.

The US was never an ally of Iraq.

We didn't fight along side them,but we did give them support with their war against Iran. BTW,this was one of the smartest moves we ever made. It is a win/win situation when you can get your enemies to fight against one another.

We protested the Saddam Hussein regimes genocide of kurds back in 1988.

Sure we did. We (Bush-1) also led the Kurds and other dissident factions to believe we would help them if they revolted and overthrew the Hussein regime. They took us at our word and started fighting,and we then abandoned them to the tender mercies of the Republican Guard as we again protested their treatment by the government of Iraq.

As for who supplied Iraq, Hussein was more a client of Soviet union than any other country, although some German and French companies are not blameless.

This is certainly true,but we also supported him.

Saddam is not "associated" with these evils (WMD, genocide of kurds and Shia, totalitarian regime, terror sponsorship), he is DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for them. How dense can you be?

Not as dense as you,that's for sure.

It is grotesque of you to parrot anti-USA lies that serve no purpose other than to give aid and comfort to our terrorist enemies.

Get off your high hobbyhorse. I am not giving aid and comort to any enemy,merely stating what you find to be uncomfortable facts. Like a lot of other people,you seem to have a selective memory. You remember what you like,and scream "foul" at things you don't like.

64 posted on 01/26/2003 12:35:53 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
Repeating a lie three times doesnt make it true. you continue to lie.

Fact: US gave no money to bin laden. Al Quaeda was created after the Afghan war of liberation against USSR itself.

Fact: Saddam is the one reponsible for his own WMD programs, his own genocide against Iraqi minority peoples and his own support for terrorists.


66 posted on 01/26/2003 1:17:07 AM PST by WOSG
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To: sneakypete
Funny you mention 'selective memory', my first reply was to refute your points about saddam and his support of terrorism, and all you have done is change the subject to false allegations about what the US may have done to support bin laden way back when (well before he ever became al quaeda head) and whether saddam bought chemicals from USA (dont think so, and you havent stated any facts to support your claim; in any case, not relevent, if jacques chirac sold saddam a nuke reactor back in 1978, that doesnt mean the french *wanted* saddam to build nuke bombs)... Yet none of your verbose replies refuted my point about saddam hussein and his support of terror. you simply forgot that point. Do you acknowledge the facts, or are you trying to be a robot-poster that spews discredited junk from "The Nation" magazine? ...




Dittos on your answer, Chris.

What hogwash to say that Saddam, who has harbored Al Quaeda since 9/11, and who trained Al Quaeda and other terrorists before 9/11 is "no threat". Do we just forget that Saddam ordered the first WTC attack in 1993? I hope not.

The American diplomat killed in Jordan was killed by Al Quaeda operatives who had links to Iraq. interrogation led the authorities, via their killers, to a terrorist who got 'medical help' in Baghdad and has moved between Jordan and Iraq a number of times. turns out he is the #5 al quaeda leader. That same terrorist has ties to the cell that was arrested last week in London and which had some ricin poison... now where did they get that?

Did yu also know that Saddam has been funding GIA, Algerian terror group, part of which was arrested in Spain this week?

Saddam recently bought euqipment for making chlorine agents, banned equipment via India and useful for WMD chemical warfare -- vx gas etc.

Many former Taliban have been supplied by Saddam and his regime and let loose in northern Iraq to fight tthe kurds.

Time and again, Saddam has given aid and harbor to terrorists. It is said the reason he had Abu Nidal killed this year was that this terrorist didnt want to train Al Quaeda. Saddam wants Americans dead and works indirectly through terror networks to make that happen, including Al Quaeda.

Now, being a terror sponsor is part of why we must take out Saddam, but Saddam's WMB are really why it is Job One.


Saddam as far as ideology and capacity for violence is no less evil than Hitler. Saddam has killed over a million of his own people, tens of thousands killed by chemical warfare - he is a man who bombed Iraqi civilians with chemical warfare and let whole cities die of it. He tried similar with Tel Aviv during gulf war. he started 2 wars.


Imagine Hitler with The Bomb. Do you really want that?
68 posted on 01/26/2003 1:29:50 AM PST by WOSG
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